A Roy board for Charles

By some certainly, but don't fall into the troll induced trap of thinking that the vocal naysayers actually represent surfers in general. They don't. They are a minority group.

I do.

They've been 'standing' for 20 years.

The existence of people who don't like them can't change the fact that they work.

Where did I say that? I don't even use the term 'solid' in relation to video and don't know what it means.

I'm already heavily trolled, so what?

I have not promised to go out and charge big hollow waves, I've done plenty of testing at up to 4 times overhead in previous years, so know how the boards behave. I'll ride what I feel like riding.

Let the trolls do their thing.

Thanks.


All going well we'll have EPS/glass versions of my designs in the USa within a year or two, but regarding fins they can be tried now by anyone who has boards with fin boxes.

The most efficient way for someone to find out if a design works is to test it themselves for a while.

Waves of consequence?

All waves are waves of consequence.

Presumably you are talking about big waves. You are a big wave rider?

I 'put up' all the time and I won't be shutting up.

It is necessary to correct misinformation when it is posted.

What vid?

I post video regularly already.


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Lol mate when you get to the point where you are posting video of people being towed in to ankle slappers on doors and tables, claiming that they are 'ripping' and that it proves something about my boards, then you have in my opinion argued yourself into a corner.

It's also ironic that you have made much of the fact that I don't have video of tubes being made, while simultaneously claiming that anyone could pull into a tube like the one in my video... on a fridge door... while failing to show that this is true in your video.

So by your own standards ( not mine) you have failed in your argumentative endeavour.

 

That would depend upon the doors being compared, they vary.

 

It wasn't so long ago that the same people were saying that my boards go well in the good waves seen in my videos but not on the East Coast where they only surf short period slop.

Lol!!... they are confused because in reality, to them it's not about the boards or the waves but rather social factors and perceived social hierarchy, with an underlying agenda which has nothing to do with surfboard performance.


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It was a 7 day time out for being mean.

 

1st don't call me mate, I'm not your buddy, I think you are a low life internet troll who tries against all odds to defend his archaic all be it visually pleasing boards. 2nd as for the video considering what craft they were riding that was some "ripping" IMO. I was not arguing so your comment about me arguing myself into a corner is a fallacy as you like to say. How does my opinion about Slater riding doors and snowboards in any way prove jack sh!t about your boards good or bad?

I made no statement that a fridge door would could pull into a tube, that was Fitz. Go back and read this thread if you are going stupid in your old age. All I said was that you posted a video of you pulling into a close out and getting stuffed then you agreed.

Again I was not arguing with you and I never gave any standards for qualification of a winner. I was simply saying that IMO Slater and crew tore it up on alternate craft better than then videos you have posted on your craft. Riding straight down the line in a "dropping a deuce on the toilet" position may be fun for you but to others it is boring and lame. There is no way you will ever change my opinion on this or the outrageous prices you charge or the fact that you come off in your posts as a know it all, arrogant, USA hating, Holocaust denying waist of this planets air so why do you bother trying?

Roy you stated a few posts ago that the folks who disagree with you are the minority yet a look at this thread, the others you created on here and ones you made on every other major forum (including Sways where you were banned for life) show just the opposite. Or did they not teach you how to count when you got your BA? Charles is the only one who comes to your defense on here and over the last year you have even turned neutral parties against you.

So now you are the board police? What do you care if a person wants to start on a shortboard or a door for that matter? And the fact that you hate people who start surfing from "social" factors or what Kelly is riding is stupid. That is like saying man I hate when kids start playing basketball and want to dunk cause they saw Jordan doing it. If the sport stops growing then we have no advancement of technology and you would be freezing your butt of in Maine in an oldschool wetsuit or wool sweater like the old days. Short period punchy waves can be way more fun on a short simmons or fish style board and the sub 6 foot range fit into tight pockets where 13ft boards don't. Small peeling point breaks are great for bigger boards but waist high peaky beachbreaks are better IMO on small quick but buoyant ones.

Peace and love to all in 2014, oh except Charles and Roy, those guys suck.

 

let him troll what ever he wants hes been trolling before your contraception in land of gnomes ever happened.

 

You are a funny guy. You even commented on my alter ego retracR, or did all the fumes you been huffing in that barn finally kill that lone brain cell you had left? Seems like it because your come back sucked compared to ones you used to post, or did you realize I am right about your messed up logic regarding folks starting to surf?

 

Folks who wanna learn to surf should go right to the long board. And carter your door and table rant was pathetic. Fitz nice post btw.

Carter I know how you want to troll every forum on the internet you make public announcements about invading magic seaweed then make statements about how you hate British people which is silly.. The English are brilliant, much unlike you. You also mumble words about how music forums are your real gig and you come here to blow steam. You also stated that you never really surf so automatically your logic can never apply here. Carter I win. Roy wins, even Wayne wins. Everyone who is real and not a troll wins. This is why the internet is a great but also terrible place.
Like Roy said., the nay Sayers here DO NOT represent any real population or demographic other than the troll. Roy's designs work well. Case in point this thread. There's allot of talk about videos to show proof. The only proof will come from your own experiences. So if You want a long board that's not a mal I'd hit Roy up.

Peace

 

Whatever the dictionary of slang tells you, 'Mate' is often used in this neck of the woods to imply the opposite of being someone's buddy. It can be used both ways.

What do you mean by 'low life'?

The video which you posted led from the statement that anyone could pull on a refrigerator door to the wave I was tubed on, and was posted in support of that notion.

Nevertheless you posted the video saying that although it was not a refrigerator door it was close enough. Obviously the video you posted was in support of Fitz's claim.

That's a pretty extreme thing to say and is technically incorrect on at least two counts.

Personally I'm of the belief that all humans are valuable, this obviously includes you.

You have misquoted me, I did not say that people who disagreed with me are in the minority but rather than 'vocal naysayers' are a minority group.

Clearly neither of us have enough information with which to determine whether the group who disagree with me or the group who agree with me are the largest, and there is the problem of how to define 'disagreement'. ... it would be hard to find two people in the world who agree on every point of every subject, so in that sense those who disagree with me would be the largest group by far, but since this applies to everyone the statement becomes tautological, or nearly so.

Several problems with your argument above:

1) Clearly the set of all people is larger than the set of people who are seen to be disagreeing with me on surfing forums. Unless one polls all people with well defined questions then neither of us can know which set ( agreers or disagreers) is the largest.

2) In my experience many who agree with me on relevant points refrain from posting on these threads because they don't want to deal with rabid individuals like yourself. They often contact me privately or publicly on other sites like FB or Twitter.

It seems to me that you types feel that if you make enough noise you become the majority. Even if you did represent a majority ( which you certainly have not shown) it would be of scant relevance. Appealing to the majority does not interest me.

Clearly I am not, why do you ask when it is obvious that I am not?

I don't mind at all what people ride.

You are using a false premise i.e. that I hate a certain group of people.

In fact there is no one whom I hate... not a single person.

Somewhat yes but it in no way resembles any attitude or posts of mine, thus it is a straw man argument which you are attempting to use.

You are entitled to your opinions above, some but not all of which I agree with.

A poor attitude in my opinion, if we do indeed 'suck' as you say then we would need 'peace and love' more than other people.

Fortunately however I'm sure that neither of us are as you have decided that we are, and thus will get by without your blessing.

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Cheers man, and peace to you also.

 

Aren't you from "the land down undah"?

 

You are confused. I said your boards aren't superior in small surf, and stated local shapers here make logs that work perfectly in small surf. The "Roy board" here seems to work poorly in our steep short period waves. I think it would work much better on the gentle Folly Pier waves, but old Steve O seems to like the washout. Stop changing the subject.

 

We almost never get 12 seconds.

 

What board and who is Steve-O?

Steep short period waves happen here a lot too, the boards go well in them.

 

Depends on how old the person that wants to learn is... I think it's easier for a kid to learn on a fish or a fun board than a long board.
Short board is not the right choice either

 

I don't think I have seen 12 sec period for the last 5 months. I envy you guys that see that regularly.