A stupid question about paddling for exercise

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  1. Toonces

    Toonces Well-Known Member

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    Apr 25, 2016
    I'm embarrassed to even ask this, but here goes:

    I've taken to riding the train and my bike to work; the car commute was absolutely killing me. While I was still driving, I managed to bring a shortboart to work and stash it in an unused cubicle.

    Now, while it is theoretically possible to take the boart, strap it to my bike, and go for a surf at lunch, I've found that it is too time-consuming to do very often. I can usually carve out an hour over lunch to work out, and in order to get a surf in...it takes longer than an hour.

    I've been working out in the gym at lunch, but what I'd really like to do is get in the water for a paddle. I work on the water, a bay, so it's pretty easy to get into flat water. Unfortunately, I don't have room for anything bigger than my shortboart at work; a longboart, or something like a Bark paddleboard or SUP is out of the question.

    The question: I know there is value in just taking the shortboart out for a paddle, but as a regular form of exercise, say 2-3 times a week, is it worth it? I did some Googling to see if there was any workouts or ideas for this other than just plopping out in the bay and simply paddling but I couldn't find anything.

    It seems that it's obvious that it has to be a worthwhile form of exercise, but...well, I just don't know. I find it hard to imagine myself laying on a 6' board and going paddling for an hour...somehow a 12' paddleboard makes it much more appealing. I mean, I can paddle a Bark for 45 minutes no problem, but my arms are ready to fall off after about 3 minutes on a shortboart.

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    Take my opinion with a grain of salt as although im health/fitness conscience, I'm no expert.

    I don't do any paddle exercise. Yet i can paddle all day long. Exaggerating ofcourse but i have good paddle strength and endurance. All i do is yoga and other body weight exercises. I stay away from weights. My thought is that paddling a SB 2-3 time's a week could potentially cause an over use injury.

    Swimming however is different as your using your whole body instead of just the arms. Other than that, I'd just do yoga and surf as much as possible.

    And again, i have no hard evidence or reason to feel this way. It's just what i do and works for me.
     
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  3. SCOB3YVILLE

    SCOB3YVILLE Well-Known Member

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    Nov 16, 2016
    Delete this post and do not take your shortboard for a paddle in mission bay. Lol. (Take that light heartedly. Not trying to be a Richard, but I don’t want to see you on KOD)
     
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  4. Toonces

    Toonces Well-Known Member

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    Apr 25, 2016
    Oh boy. I knew I was all f'd up and shouldn't have posted this.

    I gotta ask, though, what is KOD?
     
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  5. SCOB3YVILLE

    SCOB3YVILLE Well-Known Member

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    Nov 16, 2016
    Kook of the day
     
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  6. NNYNJ

    NNYNJ Well-Known Member

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    Dec 22, 2017
    Hahaha. That would 100% make KOD if someone got a pic
     
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  7. Toonces

    Toonces Well-Known Member

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    Apr 25, 2016
    Oh f me. This is the worst thread ever.
     
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  8. SCOB3YVILLE

    SCOB3YVILLE Well-Known Member

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    Nov 16, 2016
    Oar, beste
     
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  9. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    No it’s not Man, it’s a decent question. I will go and take my 9’6” and paddle sometimes just to get wet and mesh with the ocean and to practice the most important aspect of paddling: form.
    As an exercise program? I agree with the buoys lol.
    There are better ways to get that exercise in a gym or on a yoga mat, truthfully.
    I will say this - I’m a heavy guy. Strong. And my paddling? Sucked out loud. I was blown out in 30 seconds and sessions lasted an hour and a half tops. Winded and sounding like a gutshot water buffalo. I watched a paddling video of Slater that broke down his form, practiced it, and I can paddle like an Arapaho Indian in a canoe now lol.
    Form is king with surfing in all things.
     
  10. Toonces

    Toonces Well-Known Member

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    Apr 25, 2016
    (debates deleting thread before Barry wakes up and sees it)

    I hadn't thought about the overtraining thing, but that makes sense.

    When I lived in RI, I was about two blocks from the bay? and could just throw my paddleboard on my shoulder and walk down to the ocean to go for a paddle. So I was paddling a lot and I enjoyed it; it's a good workout, and it's getting in the water which is always a plus. I've been doing prone and SUP paddling for a long time now and have seen all sorts of cool things out there.

    In my current situation, the logistics of it are difficult. I live a couple of miles from the beach - easy enough with a surfboard but not really feasible with a paddleboard on the bike - and at work, the only way I could use a paddleboard would be to pay to store it at the marina for $20/month.

    Ideally, I'd like to find a way to get in the water a few times a week, even if I'm not surfing. The way things are working out, it's too time-consuming to surf during work, and, by the time I get home the surf is usually blown out, and regardless, it's hard to generate the energy to bike 2 miles home, change clothes, and then bike another 2 miles back to the beach...with yet another 2 miles on the back end back home. It's just too much BS for the reward. I've done it and it's do-able, just somewhat painful.

    I thought about just taking the shortie at work and dropping into the bay to get 30-40 minutes of paddling and then some push-ups, sit-ups, whatever, but I don't want to break my shoulders and I don't want to be KOD. I mean, I don't really care what anyone thinks regarding KOD, but if nobody is doing it, there's usually a good reason beyond just ego.
     
  11. Toonces

    Toonces Well-Known Member

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    Apr 25, 2016
    I realize I could just pay to store the paddleboard. I might end up doing it. But $20/month = $240/year = $520 over two years. I mean, these little expenses add up. I hate to pay for a "gym membership" when I have a perfectly good gym about 10 yards from the building where I work that is free.
     
  12. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Well-Known Member

    Nov 19, 2018
    Best exercise: Go see a hooker, and have her do push-ups on top of you. Now get back to work!!
     
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  13. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    I can't speak on logistics or money. That's all you. But the paddle board would be the better option to a SB. KOD.... who cares. But like i said, over use injury would be my concern. Specifically because we're talking about an SB.

    What about straight swimming? No equipment to store. Your still getting in the water. Considering what your saying here that seems like the best option.
     
  14. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    +1 on the swimming. I wish I had easy access to a pool... it's 0 impact, all the right muscles, AND cardio.

    But because I don't, I do some light weight work that focuses on shoulders, back, chest and abs... in a circuit-style routine for an hour to try and get some cardio in there. Some of the back exercises hit some leg muscles, too. So far, so good. I don't paddle like I'm 25 anymore, but I'm still in the game.

    I guess what I'm saying is... you can get the paddle power and endurance you need in the gym with the right training routine. Since I'm a desk jockey, I did a few sessions with a trainer to develop a surfing-specific routine, and it really helped.
     
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  15. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    I do very similar style training when I'm not doing yoga.

    This is somthing im pretty serious about. Longevity. At 29 my goal is to avoid injury. A few years back i wasn't thinking about my future. Now i am. My friend passed away over the summer, 64 i believe he was. He was like a kid. Great shape and still improving skill and style wise. Other older guys would sit out on the heavy days, this guy was right there with the young bucks. Super inspirational. Any way my point is that i feel strongly about not using weights. Heavy weights. I don't have a problem with light weight stuff. Anything that hurts the joints or causes stress on joints will lead to injury over time. If you surf, you'll have the ability to paddle. I find it more important to stay loose and flexible and have endurance then to build muscle. You can fight the ocean all you want, doesn't matter how strong you are. Ocean wins. Everytime. This is why swimming is a great choice. Low impact, cardio, and hits what you need. I don't have access to swim in the winter months so yoga works too depending on the routine. Body weight stuff. Light weight resistance band stuff.

    And core! Your core isn't just about having a 6 pack. It's alot more. Having a strong core is important as it takes some of the load instead of over working smaller muscle groups. Causing strain and eventually, injury. Mon-Fri day i plank for 5 min, 1 min at a time. Every week. I switch up how i do them to keep things interesting and target more specific areas. This has also helped a ton with my back issues

    No matter your age it's important to train smart. Think of how things work as a whole instead of paddling=shoulders=military press
     
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  16. SCOB3YVILLE

    SCOB3YVILLE Well-Known Member

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    Nov 16, 2016
    Im 33.
    My neck, elbows, shoulders and knees have been giving me a ton of problems. Just random pains/soreness

    Started doing “yoga” (me getting really high, listening to meditation music and stretching) recently and most of those pains in my joints are going away and my body feels better. Not long maybe 10-20 minutes each morning.

    I love hearing all those joints in my body crack. So fulfilling.
     
  17. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I practice a similar brand of "yoga" lol
     
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  18. ChavezyChavez

    ChavezyChavez Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    I joined LA Fitness some years back. Why?
    A) I paid for it so I go a lot to get my dinero's worth.
    B) They have a pool. A bacteria infested, putrid pool. But I swim at least 3 times a week.
    C) Yoga pants. Dozens of 20-something girlies in Yoga pants.
    I start and end each workout with 15 minutes of Power Yoga stretches. Like Bassmon, I avoid weights. I get a more controlled workout on the machines.
    I do Bo Jacksons. What are Bo Jacksons you ask? I go in the yoga room at the gym.
    You do one push up, get up, and sprint up and back. As soon as you get back, do 2 push ups, get up, sprint, 3 push ups, get up sprint. Keep going until you can't do anymore push ups. Bo Jackson could do up to 15 reps. I learned that workout in Prison lol.
     
  19. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Well-Known Member

    Nov 19, 2018
    [QUOTE="ChavezyChavez, post: 519843, member: 27996"

    C) Yoga pants. Dozens of 20-something girlies in Yoga pants.

    .[/QUOTE]

    I'm IN!!!!!! Where do I sign up???!!!
     
  20. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Push-ups and sit-ups are excellent for surfing. Take it a step further and integrate a burpee and now you're really talking.

    Jumping rope is another excellent, "no-cost/no-equipment" basic exercise with big benefits.
     
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