'American' way of life

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI, May 4, 2014.

  1. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    So I after I 'callously' hijacked a thread, I will start my own, I dont care if anyone posts, but you will likely read this

    They aren't 'only trying to protect my rights and freedoms', they are collecting a paycheck too, and rights and freedoms here have been severely depleted, since 9-11 the surveillance state has destroyed privacy, an American mainstay


    I believe in the non aggression principle: it is wrong to initiate force against someone. if someone is fixing to punch you, do what you need to, escalate as needed.

    All wars are bankers war, ideally these criminals could duke it out and everyone else could live in peace, but a massive brainwashing has occurred and now people believe to fight for our way of life we need to kill foreigners . Those that believe this and go kill people are MORALLY BANKRUPT

    I know another group of people just following orders, this is a poor argument doug. Its much harder to follow your conscious than to 'just follow orders'

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    Hey, look at 'free speech zones' you think this was what the founding fathers had in mind? wake up and smell the fascism. if you want to 'fight for freedom' start here at home and look at the mess the police state is in (photographyisnotacrime.com)

    killing foreigners makes you a moral a degenerate, not a hero

    blackfish, that's great you helped someone, but those people CHOOSE to be part of a murder apparatus, and we are ALL guilty as we contribute to it with money (taken from us at the barrel of a gun)

    Would you service members confiscate firearms like during Katrina? would you do house to house searches as in Boston? True monsters take part in such exercises, are you one of them? would you 'just follow orders'? if so, you are a moral degenerate.


    LEO's no longer need reasonable cause to pull you over:
    https://www.ca10.uscourts.gov/opinions/13/13-2065.pdf Game over America

    Mission accomplished troops, superb job protecting 'our rights and freedoms' //sarc off
     
  2. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    photographyisnotacrime.com is a horrible way ro prove a point... I only got through the 1st 3 video's and they were all complete crap.
    1 - a cop that was ALREADY SUSPENDED for mental issues was ARRESTED for assaulting a repo man.
    2- A woman videoed a man being beat, but it was not in the video.
    3- A kid got suspended for videoing during school (i think a good rule)

    Couldn't watch anymore... Like many said. There are a$$holes in every profession, not just law enforcement. They are everywhere



     

  3. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    yes violent monsters in every profession, unfortunately a higher percentage of sociopaths join Law enforcement after...wait for it....being soldiers

    some of the PINAC stuff is meh, but some proves that point that rights are violated DAILY here and if it isnt caught on video nothing is done.....even when it is caught, its hard to have the SOB fired, and they can continue to violate rights with impunity. This is a travesty and part of a gang (blue sheild) mentality to protect bad cops for no real reason

    it destroys faith in the system
     
  4. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2014
    100%.

    I'm a staunch libertarian. The only interpretation of the constitution for me, is the literal interpretation. The thin blue line mentality, operating with impunity and zero accountability, has quite literally turned seeing blue lights into a scary prospect. Having this union lawyer shield around them doesn't help either. Shoot someone on a no knock search, mistaken identity, slap on the wrist and a 3 week paid vaca to keep you out of camera view.

    It's a brave new world my man. Scary times indeed. When police look like SF units and start declaring first amendment zones (whoops too late)....well needless to say the Orwellian model is manifesting itself right on schedule.

    If you think where you are from is bad, check out Massachusetts. Cops here look like they are about to invade Poland.
     
  5. metard

    metard Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2014
    wow, that was like wading through cement

    gather your thoughts and state your point son
     
  6. Shikkapow

    Shikkapow Active Member

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    Jul 22, 2013
    I'll say it in this thread too. F u ck you, hippy. Go smoke some dope and walk around stoned, and whine about the MAN . Fuc King hippy.
    You are so fuc King stupid you don't even know when you are contradicting yourself...in the same sentence. You don't even wait to come full circle in he next paragraph. Idiot, go smoke some more weed.
     
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  7. leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

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    Nov 16, 2013
    Yeah, way to prove your point...ummm. Its tough to actually say something valid and pertinent when theres an opposing viewpoint i know, but c'mon you can do better than this. Why does everything go to name calling and obscenities? You know thats a definitive sign of lack of intelligence.

    And MIS, soldiers HAVE to be sociopaths. Thats what boot camp is for. Its proven science. Its to train them to be able to kill people and "not" have issues with it. Thats why theres so many issues when soldiers return from combat. THey train them to be sociopathic killers, yet not how to return to a place they cant get away with that mentality. So instead they give them badges and guns and authority and you see what happens.
     
  8. njsurfer42

    njsurfer42 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    this is the only point i'm going to address, b/c i feel you're STILL missing the point. as someone else mentioned in the other thread, almost no one joins the military w/ the express goal of killing another person (i say almost b/c, unfortunately, there prob. are a few). when you make statements like the above & the ones you made in the previous thread, you ignore the human toll that these wars take upon the american population. that makes you no better than those you condemn for pushing for & starting the wars. you're ignoring or forgetting the fact that these are actual people. fathers & mothers, husbands & wives, brothers & sisters, sons & daughters. you're ignoring all of that. & not all of them had a choice, not if they wanted to better their lot in life. my father is the son of a coal miner & a nurse/hotelier. he joined, via ROTC, & went to vietnam, so that he could afford a college education. he's now been a coastal geologist & teacher for more than 40 years. my good friend, whom i referenced in the other thread, joined the reserve while in high school. again, so that he could afford a college education. he had to take a leave of absence from his job as a special ed teacher at a special services school in order to do his tour in iraq. neither of these men, both of whom i respect greatly for reasons unrelated to their military service, ever wanted to kill. hell, the stories my friend told while drunk at his bachelor party, 2 years after returning home, gave me nightmares. most of what my dad did is still classified, but i can't imagine it's any better for the psyche.
    these are genuine, actual, living, breathing people. you might pass them on the street or live next door to them. to trash someone b/c they're trying to do something to help other humans & rehabilitate them & minimize the impact of the wounds they carry, both visible & not, makes you no better than those who rattle sabers & push for conflict. it's like blaming teachers for the ****ty state of education b/c they chose to be educators...they're just trying to do a job, it's the policy makers who are really to blame. would you expect teachers to not enter their classrooms & teach? of course not.
    in short, yea, the foreign policy of the usa is completely ****ed up. but to blame the soldiers is equally as ****ed up & ignores the human cost of these misguided wars of adventure. ANYONE who ignores the human element, for any reason, is reprehensible.
     
  9. leetymike808

    leetymike808 Well-Known Member

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    Nov 16, 2013
    I hope i didnt sound like i was speaking bad upon soldiers. Cause i agree with you 100%. For a certain class of american there is not much option for after high school. Either you go into ridiculous debt to go to college, you start your life in a crappy, unrewarding job with no real future just to get by, or you join the military to assist in your pursuit of a college education.
     
  10. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2014
    Yeah for the record, libertarians are largely anti war, but we are not pacifists by any stretch of the imagination (we like guns more than the GOP).

    I'm not crazy about war, but I'm all for a response if need be. Despite my reservations about war in general, I support our troops no matter what. Those guys and gals didn't make the policies.
    Afghanistan, I understand. It was a response.
    The poor guys and gals that ended up in the sandbox (2 good friends on mine, one a ranger) ended up there for god knows what reason.

    We interfere way too much. Isolationist policy with a free open trade policy with the world would do us a lot of good. We were like that the majority of our history. We didn't play world police. We sold guns and ammo to both sides, and never made any enemies in the process. Again, if someone messes with us, turn them into a glass parking lot. I'm all for it. Start playing with governments and people, now you're talking globalist chess. IMO, DC is using American lives for political gain and international posturing. You can't use lives as pawns in the game of globalism. Let the UN and those whacked Leftists in Europe play that game. We need to go back to our non intervention "sleeping giant" strategy. We have a blue water navy capable of leveling every single country on the planet in 30 minutes or less, and god knows what else we don't know about. We don't need to bluff, we don't even need to sit at the card table.

    My policy: make everyone money, and nobody will hate you.
     
  11. Hayduke Lives

    Hayduke Lives Well-Known Member

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    Mar 28, 2014
    The American way is a communication problem.

    Passivity is the American way.
     
  12. banman

    banman Well-Known Member

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    Mar 25, 2013
    So smoking weed makes somebody a whiner who has a low level of intelligence. Brilliant.
     
  13. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    Shikkapow if someone calls your mom a whore, its not a license to sock em
    but if someone is aimed to punch you, you are an idiot if you dont move and or grab their arm and twist it behind their back

    is that simple enough?

    and Carl Sagan puffed..hes an idiot?

    good luck with life Shikkapow, you need it

    violence is wrong, but if you need it to defend yourself, thats acceptable


    killing foreign people is not self defense
     
  14. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2014
    If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.
    Dalai Lama XIV



    A more peaceful, logical, and wise man, does not walk the earth. If he says it, it's valuable. Pacifism is the excuse of the coward when the right deed involves something that may put themselves at risk. Doesn't change that there is a high road...there's always a high road. That being said, the high road isn't necessarily non-violence, as the wisest of all men stated above.

    Nature is violent. There is no creation without destruction. There is no avoiding this fact.
     
  15. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    This tread is beyond my threshold of political effort. Plus, yous guys are using all sorts of big words and that's not how I roll.
     
  16. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    Nature isn't violent for violent sake, the lion takes the gazelle and eats it and is sated. he doesn't take 10 and store them in his freezer and then dole them out for favors later
     
  17. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013

    This is a lie and I am calling you out as an agent provocateur
     
  18. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    whoa - now i miss the poopy thread. two things about this weighty issue:
    !) cops in my town out-of-control d-bags: not sure why but salaries and pensions have something to
    do with it.
    2) one of the reasons I REALLY LIKE OBAMA (really) is that he drew down two wars; as such somebodys'
    baby came home who otherwise might not have.
     
  19. Ronnie Mund

    Ronnie Mund Well-Known Member

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    Jul 6, 2012
    What if that foreign person is armed with an AK and an RPG and shooting at you while you are trying to provide their fellow country men/women with food and aid?

    You sound like a real douche buddy.
     
  20. OldSoul

    OldSoul Well-Known Member

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    Nov 7, 2011
    DEMOCRACY RULES EVERYTHING AROUND ME, D.R.E.A.M, get the money- dolla dolla bill yall

    War won't end because it is profitable to huge companies and greedy men. The economic status of many makes it appealing to join the military, and they get suckered in. Those that join for no other reason other then good ol' patriotism most likely have had a family member served or have watched too many movies.

    I understand there are bad people in the world, I understand that at times we NEEDED to fight (American revolution, WW's). But what the hell are we doing now? In these foreign lands, using drones, killing innocent people, spying, all in the name of what? Imagine if all the troops of all the nations dropped their weapons and picked up shovels and hammers to rebuild this broken world.

    No one is protecting our freedom anymore, that's an illusion. If what the "terrorist" were trying to achieve on 9/11 was to "take away our freedom" then "they" already won.