Angry Surfer Leaves Voicmail

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  1. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    This is very true too. When i was in new orleans for my bachelor party i had a gun pulled on me the very first night for looking in someone's direction. I had to act like a "pansie" to protect myself and the others with me.

    Just to hit on the point i made before one last time, this is another reason why i find grappling good for self defense. You get into it with someone and fists start getting thrown, if the other guy has somthing it's easy for him to step back and take it out. At least with grappling you can take someone down quickly and control the body making it much harder for them to grab for whatever they got. Although your now close so it's important to know what your doing and be aware. This is the reason for my "swing first" rule. Although when i say swing i really mean take down. You just never know.

    Go back to my home depot story. Guy could of had a gun/knife and pulled it if i refused. The second he said money i took him down and locked up that choke. Arms pinned. He's not grabbing for nothing.

    Definitely better to avoid the situation altogether. Just saying if an altercation is going to happen, grappling is safer physically and legally in my opinion.
     
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  2. Manik

    Manik Well-Known Member

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    Dec 25, 2015
    Earlier this year I beeped at a guy texting at a green light, he looked at me through his rear view and flipped me off before he peeled out. At the next red light he pulled behind me and tailgated for about a quarter mile before I flipped, hit the breaks real hard, got in the next lane, then pulled behind him and tailgated him. He got real crazy and was driving like a maniac trying to pull back behind me again (this is 2 lane rt. 4 in RI). Well we both got stuck at a light and I threw it in park and got out telling him I will sodomize him on the side of the road( I don't swing that way but it makes a good threat). He was some dipsh!t scared as hell who would barely look at me. Moral of the story? I really, really screwed up. My 8 year old was in the back seat, and she looked scared. I was so ashamed and disappointed in myself. I have been through anger management ( court ordered) and it really helped.
    Back in my younger years I really felt even the smallest slight needed to be addressed, big chip on my shoulder. Never did me any good. Self defense is great, self control even better.

    Any kind of professional training is outstanding, boxing, grappling, judo, all good stuff. All potential badasses should do some training, nothing like someone half your size working you over to feel a little humility.
    I always loved Joel Tudors story of getting his ass kicked on the north shore, then he got DEEP into grappling, and turned the tide in those situations. Always one of my favorite surfers (he was always pro cannabis and loved Slayer and DRI, plus style galore and humble).
     
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  3. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    So true. Younger me was wild. Got to much to live for now. Luckily i got much better at walking away or just not letting little things bother me, like the driving incident you mention. Sometimes i need a reminder though. Just yesterday while driving home from a surf check some guy was driving like a jerk trying to go around me on a single lane exit ramp which traffic came to a complete stop on. I immediately went to roll my window down to tell the guy off. Forgot my window broke and won't roll down. Laughed at the fact that it bothered me and continued on with my happy day. As i got older these things stopped bothering me, but yesterday i needed my broken window to remind me
     
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  4. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    Ditto on the younger, angrier guy that was once moi.

    Now, for some reason, it's amusing to me when I see people losing their shiiiite. And I think of that well-worn but accurate mantra, 'Those that make you angry control you.'
     
  5. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    It’s the quiet ones you gotta watch out for. The guy who is loud and running his mouth is almost always a pussy when they get their card pulled. Guys who can fight and know what they are capable of don’t run their mouth 99% of the time. They just wait till it’s go time and then put an end to the confrontation, turning loud mouths into cry babies and bitch nigs.
     
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  6. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    Dude! You can't say nigs on the internet!
     
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  7. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    DP can say whatever he wants. He's one of the good guys, and most of y'all don't know that he speaks, and lives, true diversity in his own life.
     
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  8. Manik

    Manik Well-Known Member

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    Dec 25, 2015
    I use to like a band called the Skatenigs... Chemical Inbalance was a cool tune, sorry, not trying to derail
     
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  9. smitty517

    smitty517 Well-Known Member

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    Oct 30, 2008
    Good stuff fellas. I have no training but have been in similar situations. Dude behind beeped at the dude in front of me at a super long light. Dude in front hops out and goes bananas on me. I didn't say a word. After yelling he goes back to his car and grabs a bat. I saw him coming so I opened my door slightly then placed both feet against it. As soon as got close I shoved as hard as I could. Dropped him like a sack of taters. Drove off. I did not utter a single word during the whole thing. Fucked up my door but oh well. That dude may still be limping today! Bahahaha. Fucking jerk.
     
  10. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    That’s what I’m talking about lol
     
  11. DosXX

    DosXX Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    I've certainly had my anger issues.
    But all this begs the question, why are people, young men in particular, so angry?
    Why is self control and civility increasingly lacking in response to normal daily events, inconsequential matters and minor inconveniences?
    I see folks responding better to actual emergencies and disasters than, say, sitting at a traffic light.
     
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  12. smitty517

    smitty517 Well-Known Member

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    Oct 30, 2008
    Good question. I hate to say it but I really do think it's the everyone gets a trophy mentality. Young folks don't learn to handle adversity. The parents make excuses - never the kids fault. They grow up not knowing how to act cuz no one corrects them. My lineup etiquette is excellent? It ain't cuz I am model citizen. It's because the elders taught me respect. If you got out of line you were dealt with. By 18 i had already figured out that i need to behave or someone will fuck me up. The kids grow up in a consequence free environment so when things don't go their way they explode like angry child. The political frenzy is absolutely ignorant!
     
  13. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    I'd add to Smitty's post as to causation being from snowplow parents.

    This thing, the computer & all the gaming & the virtual reality crap. It deadens their senses, they aren't required to interact with other humans, they don't comprehend that their actions have consequences.

    Combined with the well-documented over-medication of lil Sparkyes & we as a society end up with deadened individuals who are prone to violence.
     
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  14. Manik

    Manik Well-Known Member

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    Dec 25, 2015
    Road rage and cell phones go hand in hand. All of a sudden people need to respond to every little bleep from their phones. They have finally implemented a hands free law in RI that no one seems to abide by.

    I agree with you Yank about the gaming, ect.... I still remember when Grand Theft Auto came out, thinking to myself that now little pre teen homies can commit virtual crimes before they get jumped in and do the real thing. And they get points and are rewarded, lol, it doesn't take a psychologist to see where that may lead a kid with issues.
    And don't get me started about all the meds.
     
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  15. DosXX

    DosXX Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    I agree on the desensitization factor and the pervasive false sense of entitlement. Also, a weak moral foundation and muddled sense of right and wrong from a troubling lack of good guidance and proper discipline in the home, from parents and good role models. Schools continually take the hit, but if parents aren't doing their job, schools alone cannot make up the difference.
    Lacking proper guidance and discipline, behavior becomes based on other dysfunctional peers and what is seen in the exaggerated and make-believe world of TV, movies, and video games. Of course, it doesn't help matters when our "respected" leaders are seen getting away with all sorts of nefarious and sordid behavior.
     
  16. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    I agree with all this. But i also think alot is hormones or whatever. Alot of males are a little wild in their late teens. I was but mellowed out by my mid 20s.
     
  17. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    Parents have raised crippled lil barstards, regardless of economic class. Although I believe the upper middle class & wealthy ass-pects raise the most crippled sparkyes of all.

    My nephew's little league baseball team, for example. I'd say half the team of 12 yr old boys cry when they strike out or eff up at something during a ballgame. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. My nephew's a tough lil nut, my brother has told him from day one in this world to 'suck it up' lol. The other boys on that team? Holy lemon drops, Batman, these lil fruitcakes are being comforted by mummsy & daddsy when they get picked off 1b.

    Not good.
     
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  18. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    My two fears regarding confrontations are 1. Florida is a stand your ground state, so if you're gonna start shit or try to finish it, you might get shot. 2. If I take you down fast, and the back of your head hits concrete, I could go to jail for 5-10 years for manslaughter.

    A buddy of mine, Tam, was a Colonel in the South Vietnamese Army. His son Bi, when he was in high school, asked his Dad to teach him Kung Fu. Tam told me he said to Bi, "I no teach you kung fu, everyone has gun. I teach you run fu!"
     
  19. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Do you agree with the stand your ground law?
     
  20. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Not as it is applied IRL here in Flori-duh - too messy. Too much leeway for unnecessary escalation. I believe in the right of self defense, but deadly force only as a last resort. In my home, absolutely, but that's the Castle Doctrine.

    I'm not for stand your ground in a Walmart parking lot cause someone took your parking spot.