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I hear you bass..

 

Yeah, we got a little off track, but some good discussion and insight on important matters. Sometimes we do all right. We're not such a bunch of selfish, irresponsible SOBs after all!

 

Says you...lol.

 

But did we? Really? The original thread was about someone doing something because they knew there was no direct consequence so they let it rip...that’s learned from somewhere. We just got to thinkin about how we each see how it happens and why and what we think about it. It’s a great thread that turns wide like this - gets you thinking from different angles. It’s a good thing.

 

...and the rest of the gang:

 

Peculiar...

 

Speak for yourself!

 

The ayatohlla of rock n rolla

 

You all may be surprised by this but I've been quite the helicopter parent over the years. I think it stems from what happened to me, what path I went down starting when I was 12 or 13 years old and culminated in a trip to the State Pen in my late 20's. I had/have a fear, an anxiety, that my boys would end up down that same path if I did not 'oversee' their upbringing. It has not led to them being coddled and I certainly haven't helped them in any tasks that were their responsibility and theirs alone. I have let them be independent as I can, but my constantly wanting to know what they are up to as well as being in their face about everything has led to some confrontations I wish i could have back.

 

that's called 'parenting' dude.

 

I know, I just never thought I'd be such a Richard Head as a dad.

 

lol. see my avatar pic. The Red Foreman method works.

 

You live and learn. I didn't know shit about parenting. But one thing I've learned is that you just gotta be there and spend time with them. You figure out the rest as you go along

 

Brother, they will love and honor you for it later in life and when they become fathers...and what else would you do? You saw first hand and paid a dear price for making bad/uninformed choices - I would truly have a difficult time letting them out of my site.

 

There's a difference between taking responsibility for your kids, and taking on your kids' responsibilities.

 

Monitoring your sons' activities is not a bad thing. I think it's easier for a young guy to get into trouble nowadays (with permanent record consequences) than it was, say in the 70s-early 80s when i was young and stupid. For example, there's no more of that, "Go home and sleep it off."
Also, we now have Face Book and YouTube. If they were around in my younger days, I'd still be in hiding.

 

Amen to that brother. My youngest son's friend got in a fight in school last week. The other kid's parents want the school to press assault charges. They aren't pressing charges themselves because then they'd have to pay for a lawyer. They said they hold the school liable for an unsafe environment for their son. There were no serious injuries. My son's friend basically knocked the other kid to the ground and held him there. Just humiliated him. Of course the fight end sup on You Tube and Insta-chat and all the other crap online. And this kid's parents want to ruin my son's friend's life over it with an assault charge. Fights like this happened every day and no one batted an eye when we were young-uns.

 

This is absolutely ridiculous. I hate people.

 

I have a tee shirt that says just that. I hate people. I wear it to my son's soccer games.

 

get this one instead