Any of you Swellies Paleo?

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by CaptJAQ, Dec 21, 2014.

  1. MichaelJR

    MichaelJR Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2014
    [video=youtube;pqb9pBJweVU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqb9pBJweVU[/video]
     
  2. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    I hope you're very very careful with that good sir. I know what those are and I know they're edible, but kiddies who are reading, mushrooms should be the last thing you're looking for in terms of subsistence foods. I absolutely love mushrooms but unless you really know what you're doing best to avoid.
     

  3. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Yep, healthy food.
     
  4. CaptJAQ

    CaptJAQ Well-Known Member

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    Jul 22, 2011
    OK, I'm not going Paleo, I'm limiting carbs and sugars, and only eating healthy proteins and vegetables. :)
     
  5. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Good choice man
     
  6. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    you are absolutely right Seldom. take heed kiddies!

    I've been hunting/classifying shrooms for close to 20 years and im always super critical. if im ever in doubt i'll walk away, but usually i'm only after certain species like those beautiful oysters.

    another good pick
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  7. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    hahaha pain is your friend. injure yourself!
     
  8. Koki Barrels

    Koki Barrels Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2008
    I'm on the " Eat & Drink Whatever The Fug You Want Diet"


    ....and it shows.
     
  9. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    NOTE here at SwellInfo we require credible sources when trying to prove a point.

     
  10. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Sisson promotes intermittent fasting. intermittent fasting is calorie restriction.
     
  11. metard

    metard Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2014
    archy is lake wayne

    he is confident what he believes is the truth
     
  12. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Agreed but does that make them any less insane?
     
  13. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    thanks ocarter! I really do take it as a compliment being called crazy. it's an affirmation to know that I don't think like the herd.
     
  14. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    i'm confident in what I know is truth. nothing I said on this thread is based on belief, only fact, unless I otherwise stated as my opinion.
     
  15. chum

    chum Member

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    Aug 21, 2013
    I don't know why you think Big Pharma would have a paleo bias, it is the opposite. Statins are huge business, they don't want reductions in heart disease. And its not the only study showing no link between saturated fat and heart disease. The Chris Kresser article I linked is based a on an independent paper that reviewed 21 different studies and found no relation between saturated fat and heart disease (http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract)

    You don't think Time receives $ from big agriculture as well?

    Time had a huge influence on the war on fat when they ran this cover in 1984: http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19840326,00.html



    The article is based on independent sources:
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272638612013935
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780123919342000138


    Low carb diets reduce triglycerides:
    http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=217514
    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/136/2/384.short

    Low carb diets increase HDL:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12761365
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19439458

    Blood sugar and insulin go down on low carb diets:
    http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/34
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16403234

    Low carb diets reduce blood pressure:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16409560
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17341711

    Low carb diets are effective against metabolic syndrome:
    http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/31
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18370662

    Low carb diets turn LDL particles from small to large while reducing the number of LDL particles in the bloodstream:
    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/136/2/384.long


    This is what I found when I searched for Sisson's meal plan: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-sample-menu/#axzz3MZhDRyzW

    2500 calories

    I don't know anything about testosterone and stimulants but they sound like they would be useful for any endurance athlete, not just 'low carbers.'
     
  16. chum

    chum Member

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    Aug 21, 2013
    I think you are nit picking a bit here. Endurance athletes are an extreme example. They put extreme stress on the body and are all about increasing performance. It makes sense you would need to make adjustments in your diet specific for your goals. We are talking about a tiny percentage of the population here. I wouldn't classify surfers as endurance athletes, and think you would be fine going VLC once your body had adjusted.
     
  17. chum

    chum Member

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    Aug 21, 2013
    He promotes it because it has proven health benefits.
     
  18. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    this is a meta analysis of an epidemiological study. it proves nothing as I have already stated:

    Given a large mass of data, we can by judicious selection construct perfectly plausible unassailable theories—all of which, some of which, or none of which may be right.

    this is why the other study held no weight amongst top health officials.

    conclusion from study: A healthy diet rich in protein increased eGFR. Whether long-term consumption of a high-protein diet leads to kidney disease is uncertain.

    poor link. what were the test criteria? link prove nothing.

    short term studies no conclusion as to sustainability for long term
    conclusion from study: Adherence was poor and attrition was high in both groups. Longer and larger studies are required to determine the long-term safety and efficacy of low-carbohydrate, high-protein, high-fat diets.
    study actually says LCHP diet increases LDL.
    conclusion from study: Longer and larger studies are required to determine the long-term safety and efficacy of low-carbohydrate, high-protein, high-fat diets.
    conclusion from study: VLCARB may be useful in the short-term management of subjects with insulin resistance and hypertriacylglycerolemia.
    what about long term?
    CONCLUSIONS: Carbohydrate restriction was an effective method of achieving short-term weight loss compared with standard advice, but this was at the expense of an increase in relative saturated fat intake.
    meta analysis of epidemiological studies prove nothing.
    another short term study. no proof of long term affects.
    from conclusion of study which by the way was based on an ATKINS diet: While questions remain about long-term effects and mechanisms.
    along with this other link ATKINS again with link proving nothing other than research needs to be done about ATKINS diet to prove his claims.
    I have some proof of ATKINS diet. DR. ATKINS DEAD MASSIVE HEART ATTACK OBESE!!!!!!
    poor study. again short term and it wasn't controlled.

    I don't know where you got these links albeit a paleo website. so please do some research and actually read these studies before you post them again. they proved nothing when it comes to low carb eating for long term health. they are mere reaches in the dark to justify a so called paleo expert into selling his weight loss books and over priced supplements.
     
  19. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    2500 calories isn't really that much for a physically active lifestyle.

    tell that to Julian Wilson who surfed 6 heats in one day 3 of them in a row. also I guess you never surfed LBI on a big North swell or Long Beach or Rockaway on a big East swell. maybe you have but just decided to do the drift instead staying on the good sand bar.
     
  20. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    whatever he promotes it for by all definitions it is a form of calorie restriction.