Talk about jumping for joy, this is awesome! [video=youtube;uPQXA9MX4Tw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPQXA9MX4Tw&ebc=ANyPxKpfedUfrwPPjmJh-mxkgX1SoPuoog7CPp1f_ZjQv6ck4eBbdGRwvW1zlO07jyKG1f2 hg2z5u0c3CbxAnDVMNwIUlTNGzA[/video]
Awesomely cool vid DP! Literally Was fishing in the Poconos one summer day and saw a black bear laying down in the river when I got within a few hundred feet, I let out a "hey bear"he got startled and ran off. At first I thought he may have been injured or possibly dead but he was just enjoying the water. Probably one of the neatest things I have seen in nature. Didn't know they enjoy the water as much as we do.
Great vid DP. I help support Josh the Bear: https://www.facebook.com/meetJoshtheBear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p06yMXbF2DU Perfectly healthy bear who is sadly unreleasable due to his human interaction since birth. He is well cared for though. Shouldn't this thread have devolved into political discussion by now?
Good for you dude, that's really cool. Sucks he can't be released into the wild. I wonder if they tried it if he would figure out a way to adapt, like maybe his instincts kick in, I wonder these things about all animals in zoos and stuff. Sure some wouldn't make it, but would some thrive? IDK
The problem isn't whether he (they) would make it and survive. I'm sure he'd be fine. The problem is that he was raised by humans and has lived his entire life with them. He has no fear of humans and associates them with food. Just like gators when they become too comfortable around humans and are deemed a 'nuisance'. BTW, all the animals kept at Flamingo Gardens are unreleasable due to either injury and/or human imprintation. It is not a zoo. All animals that can be rehabilitated are eventually released.
Gotcha, I guess that makes sense. Isn't there somewhere very remote they can take em though and drop them off, far from most of civilization? It's a small world, but there has to be somewhere in the world they can go and be free no?
As Floridians, how do you guys feel about the bear hunt this past winter? First in a while and it caused a bit o controversy.
I personally don't like the idea of hunting bears, but I've never had to personally deal with them living where I have lived my entire life. If they've become dangerous to people in certain areas than something should be done, but not sure I agree with hunting them. IDK, i'm a city boy just getting use to living the coastal life. I spent a little bit of time on a farm in Illinois when I was a wee lad because my Mom lived there, but not much experience with this type of stuff so it's hard to say from my perspective. I suppose if I had to worry about them coming on my property and eating me and my family I'd probably have a tougher stance on it.
As a Floridian I was and still am opposed to the bear hunt. A lot of mother bears were killed leaving behind a lot of orphaned cubs.
The big debate in New Hammy has been weather to allow the hunting of bobcats, which are still in recovery mode. Not sure what people would do with bobcats, maybe the fur I guess. They've been hunting bears up here for a while.
I am guessing due to the threat to livestock. I have been hunting (deer) the same area for over 30 years and saw my first bobcat this passed year. Legally, I could have shot it but it was just cool to watch him creep around the mountain side. As for da bears, there are areas where they are becoming a serious issue. I read an article about New Jersey residents getting anxious about the bear population becoming a concern. I don't think they have an actual hunting season. I have never shot a bear, I have seen many in the woods over the years and have come relatively close to a few big ones. One time right before dark, I had two bear cubs come right by me and I never saw momma! It was a bit daunting walking out of the woods that evening not knowing where she was. Seeing them in the wild is really cool...get's your heart pumping like when a big wave set is approaching!
Ugh, here comes the politics. Anyway, as you may or may not recall, my first interaction with HARDCORESHARTHUFFER was over the discussion of culling of bears in Florida. You can probably guess which side he took. I was on the other side.
Interesting stuff fellers... Valhallalla, Iggy, I'm with you on this. Ya know, I don't admit it elsewhere, but I understand the need to occasionally remove a 'problem' bear...I'm even ok with a hunt that's actually based on sound science as far as the tag limit, etc. Must be eaten though, F that trophy BS. My take on the FLA hunt seemed to be legislators caving to the hunting/AG lobby, waaaay too aggressive...went over the limit, and they had to close it within like a week tops I think? Also, as someone mentioned before, done at a time that left many cubs motherless. Sigmund, I've been keeping an eye on the bobcat NH situation too...gotta do something at work right(you hiring?)...Jay D, you're right, only for fur, but againe, due to pressure from special interest lobby...bobcats haven't killed any livestock up there. They don't even have a solid grasp on the population. Looks like public pressure against it(among other things) will keep it from not happening.
That entire 'killing livestock' excuse is just that, an excuse. Bogus. Stats do not support that well-funded corporate human virus BS kill-it-if-it-ain't-a-cow modality. Human virus ranchers have utilized it for years to 'justify' their slaughter of the Grey Wolf & other wolf species, as well as coyotes & every other creature that doesn't generate revenue for their greedy fat fingers. And, maybe I should know this, and maybe I don't actually want to know this but I'll ask anyways.....WTF is a "bile farm?" Sounds like more pure evil from the human virus.
Ummm, without getting into a hate filled rant, not exactly true. Wolves, fox, coyotes, Wildcats etc do stress out livestock. It's not So much the purdues of the world ( mega ranchers etc), it's small farmettes who's lives crushed from an "attack" from some carnivores animal on your stock....it's real. But, it can certainly lead to over kill ( pun intended)