Beat down on the NS

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by PaulBlart, Dec 13, 2011.

  1. El Porto

    El Porto Well-Known Member

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    Dec 28, 2007
    I'm sure that something like this would be the impetus for a state to secede. Just like the Arab Spring, the Rothman/Barron brawl will have the locals protesting in the streets. That is the dumbest thing I have ever read on the internet.
     
  2. Aguaholic

    Aguaholic Well-Known Member

    Oct 26, 2007
    It is dumb..but, it's true they are trying. Pretty funny actually.
     
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  3. macedon

    macedon Member

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    Apr 10, 2011
    There has been a core group of Hawaiians trying to secede since they became a state. I was a marine grunt stationed at Kaneohe(early 90's) and every year on the day they lost their independence we were warned not to leave base, and every year it seemed like some local would pull down the American flag at some place like the statehouse and some hardcore jarhead would be there trying to raise it back up leading to some kind of physical altercation.

    If you ever watch international competitions you'll notice there is a team USA and a team Hawaii.
     
  4. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    France should stop hating and should thank us because they dont have to speak German now. And the islanders should thank us since they dont have to speak Japanese. I'm sure we take better care of them than anyone else. All of the guys were are speaking of dont even have hawaiian roots, so who cares. I dont care if your last name is irons, rothman, obrien or whatever. they are all the same as us and need to stop fronting then. Cause if mainlanders arent welcome, all those pro surfing silver spooners should pack up and head home.
     
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  5. Aguaholic

    Aguaholic Well-Known Member

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  6. Aguaholic

    Aguaholic Well-Known Member

    Oct 26, 2007
    Interesting.....Is this the reason they have their own flag?
     
  7. sandfly

    sandfly Active Member

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    Nov 3, 2011
    You're not serious, are you?...
     
  8. surfer666

    surfer666 Active Member

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    Feb 26, 2010
    hawaii looked into the implications of succession a long time ago and gave it up when it became evident they would loose all federal benefits(unemployment/foodstamps). They realized they couldnt get by on their own and would have to pawn their island to survive. the north shore mentality is just as far from reality as possible. Im sure there are really nice people there but they live in a bubble. good place to visit but you wouldnt want to live there. I should know i live on a island.
     
  9. SearchForShacks

    SearchForShacks Well-Known Member

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    Jan 1, 2009
  10. Scobeyville

    Scobeyville Well-Known Member

    May 11, 2009
  11. havanasand

    havanasand Well-Known Member

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    Aug 9, 2011
    been stalking the surfermag bb much? Who cares, anyway. I only clicked on it because, well, hell I'm guilty...
     
  12. BeachCruiser01

    BeachCruiser01 Well-Known Member

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    Sep 14, 2007
    Just a few facts about Hawaii:\r\n-They have their own flag because they used to be their own country. \r\n-The Queen abdicated her throne at gunpoint by wealthy American business owners.\r\n-When the vote for statehood took place, anyone who was a resident of the then territory of the United States was allowed to vote for/against statehood. The population at the time was already diluted with a LOT of non Hawaiians.\r\n-Some companies are claiming some pineapple fields are theirs despite not paying for the land, nor getting a deed for the land. \r\n\r\nSo, yeah, they have some pretty good reasons to be pissed. But thats probably not what sparked a fight on the NS.\r\n
     
  13. Stranded in Smithfield

    Stranded in Smithfield Well-Known Member

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    Jan 15, 2010
    Funny you said that. Where did all the d1ckheadedness (right or wrong) start? Folks in my corner of the world claim that all were once welcomed here but when the local crew traveled to CA in the 80s & 90s they were met with what you described above. Now no one is welcome and the line up, parking lot, & airport are heavily regulated. Of course I have also heard that the heavy localism here was brought over in the 90s by a couple of Hawaiians. Which came first? Who was the first A-hole? White man or Hawaiians? Just food for thought. We all benefit from and sometimes suffer from localism. Ugh...I hate being on the receiving end but don't mind it when it works in my favor.
     
  14. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    I am thinking it was Hawaiians, but only because of the 60's onslaught of CA transplants... It was the first time that white guys were showing up on the islands, and could actually out surf some of the locals... thats where it all started... it had to happen some time... Then, enough tan white boys made the voyage out to HI, to return with a bad taste in their mouths, and then the favor was returned... Just a guess. But locals anywhere dont like outsiders... i get it... but it all started when guys infiltrated and were better surfers.. that was the problem.... Then the world should have ended when a kid from florida came to CA, killed it... then went to HI and killed it more... now everyone should just be happy and surf =) But still, the Jamie Obriens, and the Sunnys and at the time, the Andy Irons can be negative and talk smack on CA and the mainland, but they have always been met with equal if not more hostility than they had to begin with.
     
  15. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    I was kidding, but not really. In my personal experience, i have been net with more negative energy by two groups of people (and i apologize for the generalization)... Hawaiians, and French. My point was that these are two groups of people, who were going to be infiltrated and colonized by people no matter what. The US bailed France out, saving their entire culture, thus preventing them from having to speak German... That is not a joke. Not a lie. Its the truth. We saved their asse$ at one point, otherwise, the french language and culture would be non exsistent.... Hawaii is different, but when WWII happened, it was more japanese infulence than US. THe japanese owned the place for the most part.... We know how the rest of that story goes... and most of HI becoming a state was for political, and military reasons, but had ANYTHING gone differently, HI as we know it would not be hating on Girngos from the mainland, they would have been stripped down and owned, COMPLETELY by the japanese...

    Just saying... Yes, my statement was vague and mildly ignorant, but no I was not kidding at all. its the truth.
     
  16. havanasand

    havanasand Well-Known Member

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    Aug 9, 2011
    Hawaii is no different than any other place as far as localism. If you run your mouth or paddle out in the middle of a spot when it's on and try for a set wave you will be met with some resistance. If you think you're bad or your surfing can back up your attitude towards others you'll be told to leave. More times than not if you smile, surf alone and don't blow waves (you don't need to be a pro just make the drop), and surf with intent then you will have fun. You might even be told to go on waves that weren't yours to begin with. At least that's my perspective and I lived 10 minutes from the North Shore for 2 years.
     
  17. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    FOR SALE: French military rifle. Never been shot, only dropped twice. Best offer (lol)

    As far as Hawaii, I have no desire to go there due to their hyper localism. So, I guess, in this case it worked!
     
  18. Sniffer

    Sniffer Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2010
    As far as Hawaii, I have no desire to go there due to their hyper localism. So, I guess, in this case it worked![/QUOTE]

    Your nuts....
     
  19. dave

    dave Well-Known Member

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    Dec 11, 2008
    Damn man, white man just can't get a break....if I go to Hawaii I'm a Haole, and in PR I'm a Gringo....welcome only to land at the airport, spend $$$$ and stick to the tourism areas at the risk of physical violence and thats ok yet if they came to Jersey and I treated them even slightly the same way I'd probably be up on Hate Crime charges.
     
  20. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    Your nuts....[/QUOTE]

    So many other places to go...