Biggest East Coast Wave

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by davincimoon, Dec 9, 2008.

  1. DaveyB

    DaveyB Well-Known Member

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    Sep 24, 2008
    yes thats tim tice on the bottom of that wave, puts the size into prespective! pretty sick pic
     
  2. wbsurfer

    wbsurfer Well-Known Member

    Mar 30, 2008
    so then why arent any surfers on it and why is he just going straight?
     

  3. xgen70

    xgen70 Well-Known Member

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    May 25, 2006
    "so then why arent any surfers on it and why is he just going straight?"

    That is an entirely different thread........
     
  4. OCSpongR

    OCSpongR Well-Known Member

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    May 25, 2006
    Trust me plenty of those waves got ridn that day. That one double,tripled and the quadrupled up and Tim was just happy he got out in front of it. That was A SICK DAY!
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    Tim going str8 again....lmao
     
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  5. tbing

    tbing Well-Known Member

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    May 27, 2008
    Ok. I just want to chime in with what I know of Manasquan. The way the inlet there is set up. The point beach side, holds a decent swell and will break good on a pretty big sized swell. That being said, with compared to point, Manasquan's beach is set back... an extra 500ft. So all those photos you see of Jenks going off 200' past the end of the jetty, its about 400-500' offshore... the same distance is gonna be between 900-1000' offshore in Manasquan... You tell me, but I'm pretty sure that a big wave can be held there that far off shore. Thats not the only photo I've seen of waves breaking that high onto the rocks on either side of the inlet, and I personally have seen waves that big crashing inside the channel of the inlet...


    I'm not gonna say these waves are ridable... but there has definitely been 20-30' waves in Manasquan...
     
  6. live2surf

    live2surf Member

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    Jul 22, 2007
    Ash Wednesday Storm 1962

    The Ash Wednesday Storm ripped apart most of the east coast producing some huge surf. Don't think anyone was in it but here is a pick taken from the dunes in Kitty Hawk, NC. Damn big surf. How big do you think that was??

    ash wed storm of 62.jpg
     
  7. DaveyB

    DaveyB Well-Known Member

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    Sep 24, 2008
    holy sh1t!!! dude look how tiny those homes look! good find!!!
     
  8. MDSurfer

    MDSurfer Well-Known Member

    Dec 30, 2006
    Time to chime in Micah. . .

    Let's apply some wave science. A wave can only be as big as the water is deep in a particular location. As soon as any wave feels the bottom, it breaks, so a 10 ft wave will start breaking in 10 feet of water. How deep is the bottom where that wave is pictured? Please refer to Willard Bascom's book, ''Waves and Beaches'' for additional details like calculating wave speed and typical sand movement issues.
    http://www.amazon.com/Waves-Beaches-Willard-Bascom/dp/0385148445

    These were the pics SpongeOC was referring to that he took at the OC Inlet during Noel:
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    Believe it or not, these were full color shots- but the day was so gray it looks B&W.
     
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  9. frylock89

    frylock89 Well-Known Member

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    Sep 20, 2008
    Yea Manasquan can def hold a swell that big...seen my self...never 30ft but rele damn close.
     
  10. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    Here is the depth at which a wave will start the shoaling process (start interacting with the bottom).

    Depth(ft) = Period*Period * 2.56ft , where period is in seconds.

    10 sec period => 256 ft
    12 sec period => 369 ft.
    14 sec period => 502 ft.
    16 sec period => 655 ft.
    18 sec period => 829 ft.
    20 sec period => 1024 ft

    So, a 10ft wave @ 12 seconds (a solid East Coast swell), will start feeling the ocean bottom at 369ft depth.
     
  11. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    this is a great one. Tim loves his closeouts! Lucky to be in front of this lip for sure.
     
  12. Zippy

    Zippy Well-Known Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    That old picture is down right terrifying! If I saw the ocen near my home doing that I would run for the hills :D.
     
  13. rodndtube

    rodndtube Well-Known Member

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    May 21, 2006
    Assateague was breaking very nicely on Saturday late afternoon of the Noel swell. Offshore winds and breaking on those outer bars. I would say averaging 8-10' with semi-regular 12' sets to keep you alert. No crowds!
     
  14. rodndtube

    rodndtube Well-Known Member

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    May 21, 2006
    I'm not sure if you are joking or trolling. If that is Frisco it looks like about 100yds and 6 to 8 foot (and very nice).
     
  15. tbing

    tbing Well-Known Member

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    May 27, 2008
    AKA Teahupoo doesn't break unless its about 3 ft high :)


    Its not how big it is to how deep the water is.

    A lot more goes into it, like Micah said, period is the driving factor.

    Why do think that tsunamis have such a big impact? A tsunami's period is usually 2-5 minutes as opposed to a swell's 20s (on a bombing swell)


    Basically, as Micah stated, in his fancy formula, wave starts feeling the bottom of the ocean much farther than just where it breaks. When the wave starts feeling the bottom of the ocean, it'll start to slow down (again tsunamis travel over the ocean extremely quickly, moving at rates upwards of 200mph... ) When the wave starts to slow down, the period length shortens drastically, and then the wave starts to be formed.

    Again, in relation to a tsunami, this wave with a 2-5 minute period is moving so fast, but is only a few inches above normal. This is MUCH lower than any swell that you'll be attempting to ride, which is easily seen through the buoys and open swell height.

    Now when this wave slows down, the wave builds... tremendously if the period is 2-5 minutes, and builds... and builds until eventually the wave height is as it should be for the given area. An area that has a dropoff (deep waters to very shallow water drastically) will see a different type and size wave then a continental shelf will (like the East Coast) because the shelf is a lot higher, a lot farther out. This is why you'll see places jack up real quick. Usually over reef or other random ocean floors or the west coast.

    Take teahupoo for example, when the wave hits that reef, the wave just jacks up and becomes heavy. The quicker a wave builds the heavier it will be, obviously, because for the front of the wave, the period is dramatically slower than the back, which is still pushing with a pretty good driving force.

    Now, you understand how a wave travels, why it becomes ridable and how it builds. Now you want a barrel... of course!!

    A wave begins to barrel when the back of the wave is still pushing faster than the front of the wave. AKA the period in the back is still longer than the front (which is the case for every wave coming to the shore) however, which you've all probably noticed, a wave with a 5 second period is crap. Why? Because theres no driving force to it at all. So when you get that 5' swell with a 10s period, chances are you'll be having a blast getting shacked, but a 15' swell with a 5s period, you'll be getting back into your cozy bed.

    So when the wave has a good period, it'll mean much more than just the size of it.



    As for what this relates to the biggest east coast wave, well spots that have breaks that break far from the shore (like spots stated, OBX, Manasquan, etc...) will be able to hold and give a ridable wave that is dramatically larger than one that is breaking on shore... simple as that.
     
  16. jordan

    jordan Active Member

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    Oct 27, 2006
    Jesus christ re-title this thread "Claims Thread". I feel like I am in Pac Sun listening to a bunch of 12 year olds talking about the 20ft waves they caught at Rehoboth Beach. That Tim wave was during Ernesto, all the "surfers" were either watching from the beach in OC or in a cluster **** of 300 at North Side.
     
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  17. OCSpongR

    OCSpongR Well-Known Member

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    May 25, 2006
    The shots deceptive. shot with a wide angle lens 18mm.Nic lugo,Chris Joyner and a few others would say it was pushing 20' I'm sure. The waves breaking at the pier where 2+ft over head.I have pics somewhere of surfers in str8 up hands over they're head barrels.
    I'm not claiming nor joking. It's fact.And it IS Frisco pier.:eek:
     
  18. tbing

    tbing Well-Known Member

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    May 27, 2008
    I don't know about 20' on that picture, the way the wave is breaking makes it look large, its got that big mess of whitewater, falling, not even barrelling anymore... this wave doesn't looke 20' but I'm sure there were some that was...
     
  19. jrobe057

    jrobe057 Well-Known Member

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    Oct 8, 2008
  20. beaner

    beaner Well-Known Member

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    Jun 4, 2006

    just one thing to note, i've seen manasquan break much smaller than that near the tip of the jetty. Depends how much sand has been moved around. And remember that was taken before they dredged squan so it broke much different than it does today. It's a big wave though, somewhere in the 20' range