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Agreed, it certainly is not new and nearly every Country is doing it in one form or another.

 

So DP, you see no issue with Sean Hannity pushing the birth certificate or Seth Rich story, both of which have been proven false? Fox even had to tell Hannity to stop pushing online polling because it didn't meet their editorial standards.

Also, you have no issue with guys like Tucker and Hannity ignoring things like Trumps tax return. Every Republican president since Richard Nixon has released their tax returns.

Sorry, I just find it a bit hypocritical to ask for Obama's birth certificate but not Trump's tax returns, especially since he ran on his business prowess.

Idk man, just my opinion, but choosing between CNN and Fox is the ole douche and turd sandwich debate in my book. I do like Chris Wallace and Charles Krauthammer, they seem like fair dudes.

 

I have ZERO issue with Trump or any other presidildo releasing tax documents--it has zero bearing on a persons ability to govern.
It is a very stooped practice and not required, so why do it? To satisfying curiosity of National Enquirer readers??

 

I do own one, and as many treadmills are towel hangars for morons, my tv stands in for that role....

 

To compare CNN to Fox is laughable. We should be thankful that Fox is around to keep the MSM "honest" by proving a counterbalance. If it weren't for Fox the only News source on TV would be Liberal, which is a huge problem. You have to opinions from both sides and allow for healthy debate.

I too like Chris Wallace and Charles Krauthammer.

 

Transparency, that's why Barry. And it does have a bearing on a persons ability to govern when the say they are going to govern like a business. If that is the case, we should be able to see how good he really is at his business dealings....just like we have a voting track record on politicians to gauge their ability to govern. If Trump has no voting record and won't release his financials, what do we have to go on? His word? Not good enough for me.

 

So what is your threshold for something to be proven false? Even when Fox retracts the story it isn't proven false? Seems like you hold the CNN to a higher degree of accountability than Fox.

You asked for instances where Fox has spread fake news and I gave them. Fox has even retracted the Seth Rich conspiracy. I'm not sure why that isn't considered fake news if Hannity was pushing a story that his network later retracted. That's exactly what happens with NYT and you kill them for it.

 

Tax returns are not truly transparent, but, I see your point. However, based on you points, both Abe Lincoln and Ted Roosevelt did lousy jobs because they did not give us transparency. Well, to each his own.
Most tax returns are fairy tales anyway. Mine were pure fiction....

 

They had voting records to look back on at the very least to give an idea of their ability. Trump has no voting record. There is a difference.

 

But you see, that means you buy in to existence of a "political class" and that unless you "belong", you have no right to be elected.
My view is that it is that very "political class" that can "dress up" their tax returns, falsify their voting records, and manipulate voters, as they have from time immemorial!! As "political class" member, you have people at the IRS helping you, and vote record keepers making changes for you, as long as you vote them raises and big bonuses.....
It is why we have a 20 trillion dollar debt--that what we now call "The Deep State"; that isn't fiction.

 

Fox retracted the Seth Rich story because more than 50 advertisers pulled out.
You said it first. It's a business beholden to shareholders.
Doesn't mean the Seth Rich story has been debunked.
Ha nitty has come out and said he personally stands behind his story.
Fox has gone through a coup and Hannity isn't backing down to it.
Notice how Hannity has recently faced false sexual scandals?
Roger Ailes.
That loud mouth guy.

 

No, i'm asking where is the proof and facts regarding his murder? Don't you think it's rather odd that he got killed right after he was caught leaking to WikiLeaks?

 

No Barry, I am not saying we can only elect the "political class". What I am saying is the "political class" has a voting record you look back on to see how they govern. If someone is not from the political class, what gauge do we use to measure their ability to govern?

If a guy runs as a prominent business man and has no voting record, is it not fair to ask for a look into his financials to ensure what he claims to have accomplished is true? I get you guys don't care about presidents releasing tax returns. I never did either, until a guy with no political experience ran completely on claims of his business prowess. So now I want to see the proof in the pudding. But Barry, we can just chalk this one to the ever growing list of things we don't agree on. I enjoy your point of view, no matter how twisted it is sometimes.

 

refreshingly honest. the reporting of news, or it's removal is strictly a monetary decision. and they all do it.

 

I do. But I also find it odd Trump won't release his financials after claiming to be a brilliant businessman. Doesn't mean he is in bed financially with Russia, just as it doesn't mean he was murdered by the DNC. Those are broad leaps to make.

 

If I were to look at the records of "political class" candidates, and got an accurate one, I would not vote for them--not one (In fact, I have not voted in 20 years). They are "the" reason we have a 20 trillion dollar debt. Way worse than anything Trump has done in his private life (and believe me, I think Trump is an idiot as big as all others).

 

There is something to be said for this point. But, it only fuels my previous point, even Fox News holds the dollar of the truth. I am not saying the Seth Rich story is true, but if Hannity truly believes it is and he is the speaker of truth he claims to be, he wouldn't drop it because of some advertisers. But he and the Fox crew are just like the rest of us....paper chasers.

 

kyle, look into how CNN stages events to create news. Recently they had staffers in London stage a muslim support protest as well as pass a cameraman off as a 'man on the street' after the election. THAT is fake news.

 

Oh come on Barry, I know you used to rock a "Make Ross the Boss" pin in the 90's!