Breath holding techniques and lung expansion

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by patgeds22, Jan 2, 2015.

  1. patgeds22

    patgeds22 Well-Known Member

    May 29, 2012
    for sure, i started using da g pen awhile back and felt a huge difference...cant seem to shake the blunts tho. biggie got me hypnotized since a youngin out hur on the east coast. guessing once i start feeling it again in the training it will motivate some quitting
  2. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    don't short sell the leash.

  3. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    from that perch i posted on this thread which was ignored.
  4. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Yeah don't leave home without it
  5. Moon dog

    Moon dog Well-Known Member

    Dec 21, 2013
    Don't forget to do opposite breath deprivation. Dive in stated pool with empty lungs see how far you can get. Non surfers do not know the beat down a big wave will give you.
  6. Xtreme*Liquidshredda

    Xtreme*Liquidshredda Well-Known Member

    Sep 16, 2008
    Here's my swim set focusing on breath holding. Does it help in surfing. Yes and no. Yes it improves your ability to hold your breath while your HR is up. No, when held down surfing there's the panic factor, causing you to lose air faster.

    200Yard warm up

    set of 50s freestytle. Interval 1:15
    1 x 50 2 breaths down, 3 breaths back
    1x 50 2 breaths down, 2 back
    1 X 50 1 breath down, 2 back
    1 x 50 best you got. aim for no breathing or only 1 back.

    REST 1:00. repeat set.

    200 yard cool down.
  7. Spongegnar

    Spongegnar Well-Known Member

    Feb 19, 2009
    For when I go spearfishing and freedive, I'd always warm my lungs up with really deep, slow breathing for a couple minutes. It's definitely noticeable at expanding your lung capacity and lowering your resting heart rate, so you burn less oxygen. I could hold my breath sitting still for a little over 4 minutes underwater after some practice. I know sitting still is a lot different, but if you can stay calm during a beat down and not waste all your air flailing around, you would be fine.
  8. mookieo2

    mookieo2 Well-Known Member

    May 10, 2013
    You can get an app for your phone with co2 tables. Apnea trainer, static apnea. Practice those before bed a few times a week. I took the performance freediveing level 1 class this summer and it helped a lot. I did the 20M dive a few times and 3 min static breath hold. Before the class I could dive to 30' and have to come up immediately. At the end of class I was doing 35' dives that lasted 1:45.
    Like a lot of people said its mostly about relaxing and not panicking but knowing the proper breathing techniques helps too.

    I also do a few sets in the pool of swimming one length head up( that's hard) then swim underwater on the way back as far as I can.
  9. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    shart boarder has admitted to developing a unique breathing system when he's eating meat.....TMI, sparky, TMI.

    On a serious note, the pool workouts on the bottom of the pool are well worth it for developing lung capacity.
  10. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    this is key right hear the more stressed you get the more oxygen you burn. when you start to panic you can do stupid things like drink the water.
  11. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Before you do ANY underwater breath holding training, please find out about shallow water blackout. Taking advice from people online is fine, but this kind of training is inherently dangerous. I'm encouraging you to at least find out about the risks, and for my own advice, I think taking a course in free diving is wise.

    I just got back from a week of diving and and every dive it crosses my mind.
  12. CDsurf

    CDsurf Well-Known Member

    May 10, 2014
    speaking of holding breath, I was doing a lot of that today inn the jerz. I got worked while paddling out.
  13. bonefin

    bonefin Active Member

    Oct 9, 2014
    South facing much the same. 3 nice waves in 2 hrs, with a few near miss efups, and some notable denials
  14. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
  15. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Given the question posed by original poster, i.e., training to increase breath holds, it is then reasonable to do everything to improve.
    The exchange of O2 occurs at the alveolar level. These cells reside in the lung and are continuously attacked by viruses, bacteria, and our own body defense enzymes. Emphysema occurs in ALL humans with passage of time due to the alveolar cells being damaged.
    The alveolar cells are protected by proteins that are manufactured by your liver cells, secreted and carried to the lungs by your circulatory system.
    Alcohol is very damaging to your hepatocytes (liver cells), thus reducing the amount of protective proteins available to protect lungs.
    An example of one such protein - alpha -1 - antitrypsin. Although a rare genetic disease, some persons are unluckily born with a malfunctioning or absent gene. They get emphysema early in life, whether they smoke or not. Smoking does huge damage to them an ushers in their demise. Alcohol should also be avoided.
    There you have it.
  16. stinkbug

    stinkbug Well-Known Member

    Dec 21, 2010
    In my opinion no amount of breath
    hold training will prepare you for big wave surfing. The training require to survive big wave hold downs is in fact, having experience in big waves from an early age. I don't breath hold train and I'm not a free diver. I can hold my breath at rest on the couch or in a pool for 2.5 minutes. I think guys like Healey can hold their breath at rest for 6 minutes. Still, none of that will prepare you for getting rag dolled 30 feet down in pure blackness being pulled in every direction after a fall in a big wave. None of those big wave guys are staying down for 2-3 minutes even in those situations. It's only experience in big surf and staying calm which allows you to survive that, not how long you can hold your breath.
  17. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    And for a lot of people, it helps to keep you calm knowing you can confidently hold your breath for nearly 3 minutes, and even the worst hold downs are typically less than a minute.
  18. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    How is Nathan Fletcher still a smoker? Something I've often pondered.
  19. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    adjusting to the INTENSITY of the situation.
  20. cbb09

    cbb09 Well-Known Member

    May 6, 2008
    Exactly, like a trip on acid , relax and enjoy the ride... The more you struggle the greater chance you will get hurt, know your limits...