Career / Life Advise Tread

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by DawnPatrol321, Aug 9, 2018.

  1. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    Jun 27, 2010
    Wow, the things I miss when I don't log into this site for a month.

    Sorry to hear about your situation. I was stoked for you when you were finally able to move to CFL and could tell your water-time had increased ten-fold.

    Do what you gotta do. Don't take this the wrong way, but be thankful that you do not have kids yet. As a couple, your planning should be a little easier. Plus, young kids also feel the stress that parents are going through, even though they don't understand it completely. And you wouldn't want that.

    For me, work has just been a means to put food on the table and give my family a comfortable life. I also tried by best to find the right working situation to give me enough flexibility and time to do the things that I love. Time is the most important commodity. I have also been fortunate to have great bosses over the years which made my relatively mundane jobs bearable.
     
  2. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Thanks for dropping in dude, good points all around.
     
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  3. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    what kind of work do u do dsup?iv been in the construction trade my whole life,mainly metal work.rigging,fabrication,installation,etc.it sucks,like I breath in bad shit on the daily,some days im too exhausted to even go surf where I come home and pass right out.its the only thing I know and I feel its too late in my life to jump ship and find a different career,this is the only way I know how to make great money legally lol.

    as far as moving inland for work,thats something I can not do
     
  4. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I have been in Sales for the last 19 years, basically my entire adult life. I have sold advertising for The Flyer Magazine, the largest direct mail publication, at least it was, don’t know about today. I have sold debt consolidation programs to help people get out of debt. And the last 14 years I sold online continued education software to licensed professionals in the construction and design industry for RedVector.com (don’t buy from them!) I was the Sales manager for a couple years too just prior to relocating and going back on the phone.

    I feel like Sales is what I know, like the construction trade is all you know, but I am open to trying a new industry if the pay / hours are good and is something I can learn. I pick things up quickly and am able to adapt to my surroundings. So I don’t want to limit myself to doing the same thing my entire life.
     
  5. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Brother, you and me and many others are in the same bus seat... I’m looking at a new job/career change soon and I’ve done it all - mostly just to keep th bills paid and feed my family... I’m just really bummed that at 47 my stability is in question again. Not my mental stability... that’s been gone for years. Also, in the trades, companies are STILL stuck on STUPID and treat people like tools and give them the donkey and carrot routine every time. Some trades don’t but it’s amazing to me to listen to people whine and cry about how “no one wants to work” and “these kids are lazy” when describing 30 yr olds and how they can’t hire them for peanuts. The trade I’m in now, “top rate” in 1994? $25hr. Ask these pirates what “top rate” is today? $25hr. Labor rate in 1994? - $80hr
    Labor rate in 2018? - $135-140hr.
    And amazing... no one can find skilled/experienced labor in it. And yet I go and put feelers out, with an BOATload of experience, certs, tons of knowhow and totally turn key managerial skills to boot?
    $25 an hr is considered fair...
    My male gigalo career was a flop though so I’m stuck being dirty and falling apart lol
     
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  6. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    This is a big issue i have with my current employer. Yeah im young, but i bust my ass. I enjoy my job. Id rather bust my ass that sit around twiddling my thumbs.

    So i do mostly service, dead of summer, 90+ out.... im the only guy on service. And i HANDLE it. I keep the companies head above water. Atleast on the service side. There's another kid a few years younger than me that does nothing. I get paid more, but only slightly. There's guys older than me who again, do nothing. Come in late, leave early. Handle 1 or 2 calls a day taking there sweet ass time. While im having ass. Yeah they get paid double what i make.

    They complain it's hard to find young, willing and able, skilled, and knowledgeable guys. Then they get one and upper pay him. I could be making double what I'm making here, elsewhere. I don't even ask or expect that. But a little bit to show your appreciation would be nice.

    No biggie though. After the wedding I'll be on the hunt for a company that will pay me accordingly. There loss.

    But anyway reason why i even brought this up. I was talking to one of the guys at one of the power plants i do work for. Apparently they hire guys who have no idea which way to turn a screwdriver. Said a guy like me would have to start low but would come up quick with my skills and knowledge. Im hesitant because it's somthing diffrent, but would be totally worth it. Plus it's not that diffrent from what I'm doing now.

    So yeah if monies right, jump ship DP. Don't hold yourself back just because it's not what your comfortable with
     
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  7. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Brother, you will do very well in a larger company with room for growth in any general tech field you find. Trust me on this. I know work ethic, I know skill sets, I know problem solving skills when I see them. And one thing I do find - the bigger more established companies often WONT pull that dog and pony show with good potential hires. They make you work for it but reward returns on their investment in you. It’s good business.

    I’m having a rough day today and this is freakin my head as I read and type - funny how it works like that.
     
  8. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I just got back from a promising interview with American Income Life. I would be selling supplemental insurance to people in labor unions, credit unions, associations, etc., typically people who either don't have benefits or don't have enough benefits through their employer.

    It will require me taking a 40hr course and passing the insurance test to get my license. It's a 1099 gig, never done that before but sounds like it'll be OK if I hire an accountant for taxes.

    The income potential is 50-100k+ (If I open up my own offices down the road it could be 250-400k but that's a lot more commitment) . 50k if I do just the bare minimum and get 3 enrollments per week. 100k+ if i'm doing like 6-7+ enrollments a week. There's no cold calling. Leads provided. These people have already requested to have an agent sit down with them to go over the benefits, which sound really good an very affordable. Can't see too many people turning it down once you have done the presentation and there is a genuine need.

    I go back tomorrow to sign up for the class and start the training process. Small investment of $179 for that, and then the exam is only $42. The boss man is an avid surfer, from Ponce Inlet originally, so naturally we hit it off right away. I didn't even finish filling everything out and he said to not worry about it, he said he likes me and wants to bring me on if I felt the same way, which I do. So fingers crossed this is what I end up doing and hope it is everything he says it is.

    As far as hours go, the first 90 days will be a lot of work, more hours than I'm use to, but he said that after that things will settle down more and I can make good money and have a good work life balance to surf any day I want and spend time with my family. He doesn't care if I work from home, as long as I come in the office for a meeting 1-2 days a week or something like that.
     
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  9. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Congrats Man! That’s an awesome feeling when the bad stuff starts to look done and good stuff is coming...
     
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  10. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Thanks dude, I feel a lot better, even if I still have no money coming in yet. I can see the potential and am excited to get started.
     
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  11. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    That's awesome DP! Congratulations! Told you somthing better would come. Sounds like a pretty great set up for your surfing life style. Happy for you man. Hope it all works out
     
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  12. BassMon2

    BassMon2 Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2015
    And not to derail, but yeah Mr. B. This is why i have some stress. I don't make bad money, but definitely well underpaid. The wedding has just made it much more apparent and front and center in my mind. I bust my ass everyday knowing I'm underpaid.

    But you know what? There are times where im like eff this. I'll put out the same output as everyone else. Why am i working so hard if i don't get pay that reflects that. Well... that's just not me. Im not the type to complain or slack out of spite. I keep busting my ass, keep up the work ethic, and know it'll pay off when i do jump ship. Hell, even if it didn't pay off. Atleast i can take pride in my work. The second i leave work the anger and frustration goes away. I enjoy the good things in my life.

    Just like what DP is going through. Bad situation. Looks awesome for him now though. Good things happen to good people. Wedding day less than two weeks away. Then I'll be finding bigger and better things. Hopefully my boss surfs to hahaha
     
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  13. capecodcdog

    capecodcdog Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2012
    DP, sounds like it might fit you well. And if you don't want to hire an accountant to handle the 1099 stuff, get one of the upper tier TurboTax versions (I think Home & Business), as it can handle that and any Schedule C stuff. At one point my wife was paid that way, so we'd let TT handle it. You can probably figure out what you need pay/save for paying your taxes. I'm not an accountant, but your new boss or others with the company know the drill since they're in the same boat.

    Blessings on ya duder!
     
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  14. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Yeah man, I probably won’t have much free time for 3 months but it’s an investment of time to get freedom in the long run.

    I’ll be able to make my own schedule once I’m past the initial ramp up period. Set my appointments from home, go to the prospect’s / client’s home to do presentation and get the enrollment.

    He said he doesn’t care what I do as long as I’m getting my 3-4 enrollments a week.
     
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  15. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Yeah that’s what I’m thinking, if not Turbo Tax (which I already use) maybe find out who they use for their taxes. Thanks for the positive vibes!
     
  16. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    plus one one the CCCDog. Also, you may want to consider setting yourself up as an LLC (and file as a Sub Chapter S)...doesn't need to be right away but there are definitely some benefits to having your 1099 paid to the corp.

    Also, if you can get appointed with random companies (Pru, Lincoln etc) and sell larger life policies to clients outside that gig. Your 1099 from each company would go to your corp. I have a great contact in Jax, Fl that can set you up with independent contracts under your corp. You would get paid on each case...when you have a random prospect that falls outside the scope of your gig, you can place it through one of these contracts and get paid.

    I know folks in this business and you have many paths it can take you. I know guys making $250k doing insurance planning. Tons of flexibility. Good luck and let me know if you ever want to look beyond...but for now you should pass your test!!!
     
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  17. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Thanks JayD! I will certainly keep that in mind. I will find out the ins and outs soon enough. Good looking out!
     
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  18. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Plus 1 Jay!
     
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  19. Panhandler

    Panhandler Well-Known Member

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    Oct 27, 2015
    They have any pre-requisite tests to "study" for? Anytime I have a good applicant, I always close the interview with - Be sure to study for your test, as most applying for a restaurant job in a big operation need to study time
     
  20. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    As far as I know it’s just a 40hr class and then the license exam.