Catching rail on every turn

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by Zman9398, Jul 4, 2013.

  1. Zman9398

    Zman9398 Well-Known Member

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    May 16, 2012
    Hey I was riding my new shortboard this week and it's a little undersized for me I'm 6'3 145lb and my board is 6'3" x 18 1/2 x 2 1/2 but every time I seem to grab a nice wave I can immediately turn and ride closer to the top of the wave or I can go down the wave and go for a bottom turn causing my rail to dig in and I lose speed and bail. How do I fix that?
     
  2. somegaveup

    somegaveup Well-Known Member

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    Jun 17, 2008
    For a frontside wave, if you are catching your inside or toeside rail, transfer more weight to your back foot. This can be done be simply pointing your lead arm up to the spot on the lip you would like to hit. By raising your lead arm you will naturally transfer weight to your back foot and pull the nose/rail out of the water. Good Luck.
     

  3. GreenFlash35

    GreenFlash35 Well-Known Member

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    Jan 5, 2011
    can you take the fins off. first try going fin-less, then one, two, etc. the rail shouldn't dig but more of a slow slide.
     
  4. Jai-Guru

    Jai-Guru Well-Known Member

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    Jan 4, 2011
    You're 6-3 and your board is 6-3...Houston we have a problem.:confused:
     
  5. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    why??????????
     
  6. Jai-Guru

    Jai-Guru Well-Known Member

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    Jan 4, 2011
    Most folks I see could use more volume to solve a lot of surfing issues. At 18" wide that's a waffer at his size even tough he says he's only 145 lb..IMO of coarse:cool:
     
  7. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    agreed on the width issue for sure.
     
  8. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    It's not necessarily the width at the wide point, but how far it carries that width towards the nose, tail, where the mid-point is, etc.

    6'3" @ 145? Hello growth spurt!

    Man, I think you're just trying to ride a HPSB in waves you should be riding something with more width and volume. It sounds like you're not getting enough planing speed to carry your momentum through the turn--it's more like you are bogging the rails instead of catching a rail.

    For instance: I'm 6'3" @ 170.

    My semi-gun is a 6'6" x 18.25 x 2.25 and has less volume than any of my other short boards. I can't ride the thing in anything less than head high and forget it if it's mushburgers no matter how big it is. The board is magic in the right waves, though.

    My step-up is 6'3" x 19 x 2.33 but I can ride it in waist-high surf if I have to (which I have been forced to do the past week because I cracked the rail on my Coil daily driver), it can just be frustrating because the rails are so foiled and will give that sticky/boggy feeling. There isn't much room for error in smaller waves because of this, so I guess it's good practice.

    My Daily Driver is a Coil Wider Widerboard: 5'10" x 19.75 x 2.37 (or something like that) and has the most volume. It carries the volume throughout the board and has softer rails than my other HPSB's, so it's way more forgiving--especially in the gutless stuff we get a majority of the year. This board maxes out when the waves get overhead unless it's glassy and throaty.


    Moral to the story: The board you have is probably not good for you as a daily driver. Maybe try out some different fin combinations that might give you some more lift or size down to loosen it up. I think ultimately you need to be looking for something with more groveler characteristics.

    What make and model is your board?
     
  9. Zman9398

    Zman9398 Well-Known Member

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    May 16, 2012
    I have 3 main board I surf out of the 9 they are...

    I have a Wynn hpsb 6'3" x 19 3/8x 2 3/8

    I have a Stewart Fartknocker 5'9"x 20 3/4 x 3/8

    I also have a board I shaped in my garage 5'7" x 20 1/2 x 2 2/8

    By the way I'm. 14
     
  10. Zman9398

    Zman9398 Well-Known Member

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    May 16, 2012
    I also have a 7'0 foamie for those really small days
     
  11. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    6'3" 145bs??? 6'3" 170lbs????
    guys get yourselves some food lol.
     
  12. SkegLegs

    SkegLegs Well-Known Member

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    Feb 8, 2009
    It's the ****ty summertime mush.
     
  13. Bill Cosby's nephew

    Bill Cosby's nephew Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2013
    Every fourteen year old should have no less than 10 surfboards, that's where you messed up
     
  14. Zman9398

    Zman9398 Well-Known Member

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    May 16, 2012
    You're being sarcastic, right? Idk I just woke up
     
  15. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Agreed with Erock. Probably just the wrong board for the conditions.
    But it doesn't sound too small for you. Not sure what kind of board it is, but if it's a "standard" shortboard 6'3 x18 1/2 x 2/12 does not sound small for 145 lbs.
     
  16. Zman9398

    Zman9398 Well-Known Member

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    May 16, 2012
    It is 6'3" x 19 3/8x 2 3/8
     
  17. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Try putting a small fin in the back, maybe that will loosen up the bottom turn on small waves. It does sound like too narrow of a board except for barrels. Good luck.
     
  18. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    or just stop bottom turning on small waves. def sound like you are bogging.
     
  19. somegaveup

    somegaveup Well-Known Member

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    Jun 17, 2008
  20. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Oh... You had said 6'3 x18 1/2 x 2/12 originally. Still I think it will work fine for you in good waves. You may grow out of it quickly over the next year though.