Channel Islands Kooks

The CI corp is entitled to market however they please, just like Roy. Supply and demand. I have owned a few over the years, and they have held up OK in heavy surf and ride real smooth and fast. And turn real easy without loosing speed. But I understand your frustration not being able to see exact specs. Oh well.

Many times when I surf I am "shopping". When I see a guy who is about my size and weight shredding, I paddle up to him, compliment his last wave, and ask about the board. If I see a cool shape, or a weird shape in the parking lot, I ask for rider feedback. I take mental notes. You don't ask, you won't learn.

 

Best advice in the thread right here!


Vote Rcarter in 2014 Because if we all work together we can all hate everybody.

 

Touche. So,

I have never shopped a board by knowing the exact dimensions of foil, concave (single, double, triple), tail shape, nose shape, type of rails, and spacing of fins. All of these things are important to me but not necessarily the numbers.

Overall volume is important but I haven't even used that as much as a thorough feel and touch of a board. When I look at a board I rarely look at any numbers other than center point width, thickness and length. I use these numbers and my eyes to determine the depth of concave, amount of rocker, and rail outline. I don't do this in the hopes of replicating the board in my garage when I shape. I don't shape which is why I am shopping a board.

Nothing can replace your feel of a board. I think it is absurd to call a company a "Kook" because they won't explain every detail. There are companies that talk about these things but does that change the sales figures? Does Firewire sell more because they explain more dimensions of there boards? I don't think they do although I have no evidence to back that up.

I don't get wrapped up in the Kelly/Dane Hype (although both amazing surfers) but I would venture and say CI is not a kook company. They've been around a while and have earned their right to brand there boards and explain only what they want.

In every company - some people will not agree with the principles. They may shop elsewhere. This is why there are so many brands.

Enough Articulation EmassSpicoli?

 

Bro, I wasn't saying you needed to write 7 more paragraphs. I was showing you a mirror because your sentence structure in the previous message you composed (the one slamming the other dude's articulation) was azz backwards. The guy with a stutter shouldn't cap on the dude speaking broken English.

 

Bro, I understand that, Hence the Touche, And I still think him calling CI a Kook company is Back azzwards. I've never even owned one and I see it that way.

 

Touché yourself, bro.

Then why close that last post with "Enough Articulation EmassSpicoli?" (excessive capitalization) when the content of your 7 paragraph rant had nothing to do with my recognizance that your slam post on the other dude was written improperly? I'm all for keeping braddahs honest with their vernacular, you just need to make sure you aren't slapping yourself in the face in public while doing so.

When you try and throw a haymaker, knock your opponent out. Don't help him stand up with smelling salt. You made that other dude look good.

 

I never claimed to be great at typing. I deeply apologize for putting on such a **** show - specially with regards to my capitalization. And OMG, is this really your definition of Public?

I'm not trying to knock anyone out for that matter. I'm also not slandering Brode as much as his statement. I don't know Brode, and he doesn't know me. Sorry if this statement is laden with grammatical errors and piss poor spelling.

 

Bro, you said "OMG". Don't stay up too late watching Mean Girls. It's a school night.

Moral of the story: You sounded like Mike Tyson when you were trying to insult his intelligence and representation of the spoken/written word.

I'm not even party to this kook thread and haven't read any of the posts relating to CI. All I'm concerned with are the posts about poultry as they're making me hungry. I'm also amazed at how many consecutive posters both commented on the political debate on CI/kook boards as well as chicken dealers. Mad props to the dude who realized his long-winded stance on the kook boards was just that and said nothing about what we really wanted to know - his chicken preferences. The good brah went back and clarified his allegiance to the Popeye's vs. KFC debate. You life kooks are alright.

 

Please, Stop Insulting me - I watch GLEE not Mean Girls. I also Drive boats, not go to school - after this debate I guess I should start. This is getting overly dramatic.

And I prefer Smithfield's fried chicken over Popeyes and KFC.

 

Bro, edit your post at least 4 more times. Please.

 

They've become a marketing company!

When you order a custom board through Merrick they take your order form and match it best to what they have preshaped on the rack. Then they charge you magazine mark up prices and you end up with a board you could have shaped locally for $400 instead of $800!!!

Support your local shapers!!!

 

99.99% sure that's not the case. at all.

that said, i'm all for supporting your local shaper. of course, if you want an *actual* dumpster diver or whatever, from any board builder, your local shaper isn't going to be making that for you. he's going to be making his version of it. which is great if you just want a "dumpster diver type board", but it seems like a lot of folks go to their local shaper, don't get a perfect replica, then go on the interwebz & ***** about how the shaper "sucks" or whatever. it's bull****.

yea, CI markets heavily. so do ...Lost, Rusty, & many others. do you really think that any large operation that employs ghost shapers has more soul than another? it really amuses me that CI garners all this hatred while companies like Lost, JC, Rusty, JS, etc...get a pass somehow. i especially love the whining about how light CI glasses their boards. it's a double 4oz deck! wtf do you expect to happen? & do you really think any other large board builder does their glassing any different? every single major board builder's stock glass job is double 4 deck, single 4 bottom. i've had great boards from CI, even one or 2 i'd say was magic, & some bad ones. some boards held up well, some were damn near bullet proof, & some collapsed under the weight of the wax. same goes w/ Rusty & Lost. if you don't like CI's product, don't buy it. if you've never ridden one, why are you talking ****?

 

I'd ride a merrick in a heart beat if it rode nice. Only surfed merricks a couple times when borrowed but they seemed alright. People calling each other kooks for what they ride is kooky. I am lucky to have a local shaper who makes boards that work great for me. I've even had him shape a couple of other shapers boards (his version of a ksmall and a hynson black knight)and modify them for our local sh!tty waves. The guy or gal having the most fun out there is surfing the best. For an individual activity/sport people sure do pay a lot if attention to each other. Get over it! Each one of us is a kook in someone's opinion, myself included. No one is that ****ing cool.

 

Many years ago I traded a few grams of magical fungus to a friend for his used CI Flyer he was considering selling me. To this day I consider it one of the best deals I made in my life. Maybe they don't make them like they used to, I don't know. But I do know that I refer to that design whenever I'm shopping around for a new board.

 

A CI is as much of a kook signal as a Firewire or a Surftech.

 

dont bash my 7s bro i love it and throw 14foot cali airs off it. i named my board ocean beach after san fantastic sisco. your a kook you fall a lot bro get off my peak on the forum.

 

im not gay

 

Some good boards come out of the CI factory(even though Al Merrick sold it years back to Burton Snowboarding) I had the pleasure of chilling in the factory with a good friend that ghost shaped for them a few years back. The place was cutting edge. The designs, the shapers, just the coolness of the whole crew there made you feel good about being a surfer....not to mention Slater, Machado, Bobby M...Dane, all these cool guys just roll thru the shop sometimes with crazy good feedback. CI has awesome shapers and designers and this helps us all. I buy local boards only and our local shapers have benefited from all the design, rockers and templates off CI. Really if your an amazing surfer you can ride most anything...look at Curren and Machado. Put yourself on a decent board and stick with it, figure it out and just maybe you will have flow like these dudes one day...CI,well prob not for most. Thanks to AL and CI for progressing our sport...hell, look at Kelly...dudes been ripping and motivated for most of his LIFE!!

 

Support your local shapers. You can get custom board for half the price of a CI. They know the best boards for the conditions anyway . 700 for a board is absurd especially when your charging belmar and break boards like toothpicks

 

that's not always the case.

If the local shaper in question has a very good reputation and you order one of their signature shapes that they've developed, chances are good you'll get a great stick.

If you go to an unknown local shaper, you run a risk...if you go into any local shaper and ask them to copy a board that's not even available for reference, you're probably going to get a dog.