Charleston is in the national news again...

Good gathering at Marion Square this morning.

 

Obama headed here Friday for funeral address..... Meanwhile surfing community organizes a paddle out this sat at folly View attachment 15967 just dawned on me I think I could do a paddle out u don't have to stand right??

 

hey frost. have you read bitterly divided by david williams? every northern liberal should have to read it imo.

 

Naw haven't read it but quick review looks about right...as in a lot of wars the goal is set by a small % but they use others to accomplish it through death and destruction/war and get the public to buy into it through propaganda... Where are the WMD anyway? Hmmm...

 

Read the document, dude. That is the literal declaration of secession. What reason is given there aside from slavery?

 

Dude, you are a Republican. Give it a rest.

 

I've read it have you?but for you I will copy and paste it and bold it

The people of the State of South Carolina, in Convention assembled, on the 26th day of April, A.D., 1852, declared that the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union
Summary we as in the state of sc wanted to withdraw in 1852...due to federal encroaching of rights.. The neighboring states persuaded us to stay a lil longer...

 

the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union

 

good looks frost

and I'm blown away at being called a republican, I wonder what I said that lead to that.....
labor should own the fruits of their labor, capital is overvalued in these days, imo, so I hope that clears some things up sbx

sbx just got a hard on: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/22/politics/confederate-flag-walmart-south-carolina/index.html

 

What violations? It's in there.

Edit: enough of this game. The "violation" was the failure of the federal government to force free states to return escaped slaves and allow transit of slaves through free territory.

 

Dude, your politics as presented on here are virtual identical to Ron Paul's, crypto-racism included. He's a Republican, don'tcha know. Sorry you won't be able to buy your white supremacist tchotchkes from WalMart anymore.

 

Well I dunno I'm no history expert, I like history know a little about it but history is just that.. The past...doesn't really matter much to me in reality I'm German Scottish and American Indian not even sure if my ancestors were here for civil war, Cept the Indian side, by the way was it good what the u.s Govt did to us? (I'm Cherokee)Isn't a forced march from n.c to Oklahoma (trail of tears)to be forced to live in a camp somewhat akin to slavery? Yea there's skeletons everywhere so before anyone waxes poetic dig deep first

 

really convenient that you follow the propaganda and equate the stars and bars with racism. you are a perfectly useful idiot.

I advocate for leaving people alone, I guess you prefer the gvt instruct us how to wipe our asses?

I dont give a fvck about walmart, confederate flag etc. I do give a **** when people try to make a strawman out of a non-isssue and then blow it over and say they won the argument.

I am not a racist, I do not think anyone is better or worse than anyone based on skin color.

I do make fun of anything about anyone without a care.

you and julia would make a perfect couple, move to VT and go birdwatching in your Prius, try not to hate yourselves too much.

 

In the future, keep Kropotkin's name out of your mouth, you POS

 

when the members of the ame church prayed for the scumbag and said they forgave him the liberal media had nothing to run with. so they interjected the flag issue to stir up racial tensions and it seems to be working. wish they would focus more on the victims and their stories.


imo that flag has no business flying over any state, federal, local or public building.

 

Interesting points, brew. No matter which flag, I will NEVER understand why humans attach themselves to an icon, a symbol, no matter what. The world has more important matters to solve than what color a piece of cloth will be. Maybe it is just that--avoidance of matters of importance, avoiding decisions, etc. Very "high-schoolish".

 

Funny thing, when I livd in PR I never ever experienced anti-Americanism on the part of my schoolmates (all in my class were puertoricans, except 2 others out of 104). Even those who were "independentistas", treated me as one of their own. Always.
When I came to the USA in 1969 to start college, all my college new friends labeled me "spic", my then nickname. They did so out of fun, but, buried in that fun was the seed of difference, not the seed of sameness.
Last year was my 45 high-school reunion. One of my PR classmates called my home and requested my presence. He told me, "Barry, I am calling because you have always been one of us. You played cowboys and indians with us in the streets." Those were his exact words, albeit in spanish. No seed of difference there.
The racism the USA experiences is very much American in nature, regrettably. When I try to think what needs to be done to change that mindset.....I always come up blank, no solution in my head. But if South Africa could solve their apartheid, what is wrong with the USA? It is lack of leadership,....we have no Mandela.