Creepy? or ciminal?

Dude, who is complaining aboot their "failures" or saying they are "discontented." America has treated me pretty well so far......

"The easy way out?" The easy way out of what? Why do you have this belief that every non-republican is lazy and collects welfare. Most of the people living below the poverty level work long, long hours......They have jobs. Conservative states receive the most federal welfare in this country.

Dude, please, no Fox "News" terms like "Class Warfare" Awww, the poor rich. They have it so bad.

Class warfare is sitting around watching the poor get poorer, and the rich getting richer, while the middle class dies....That's class warfare....

Yeah, when the industrial revolution kicked in, those fat cats at the top just treated their workers swell. You can't have a society based on the middle and lower classes being subservient and held hostage to the desires of a few at the top. That's ridiculous. Most CEO's have absolutely no morals or compassion for anything or anybody.

I don't respect most CEO's because I don't believe most of them do much at all. Most of them were born into the whole deal. Salaries are declining and it has nothing to do with competition......nothing at all.

Anyways thanks for your opinions, Hinmo, try and snag a few at The Dock tomorrow....or where ever you go. God save the queen.......

 

yeah man, no prob, we see it differently. thanks, tomorrow im hoping to get out there def. hope you score too.

 

The weird part of the "Class Warfare" is that the powerful are accusing the powerless. they get the racist poor to agree to cutting "entitlements" by saying is because it's the Muslim that's instigating it. My friends daughter moved to Texas from OBX. She's my wifes "friend" on facebook. She posts that she needs to get food and hopes someone will give her a ride. Then celebrates that SC is refusing to give their citizens affordable health care. Her dad is soon to lose his house because her mom just died after a long (expensive) battle with cancer. The insurnce co cut them off due to reaching their life time limit.

 

We're going to continue to have lagging middle class until we can figure out an effective way to even out the payroll of publicly traded companies. If a CEO only gets 45 million of the payroll pie instead of the usual 50 million that leaves enough $ to give 500 managers a $10,000 raise which will definitely have a much greater impact on our society than whatever the CEO would've done with the extra 5 mil.

That goes against all of my libertarian leanings but I don't see any other way out of this mess.

 

Yes. Yes. Thank you.

 

Wow, look at these two last posts......people with f'ing sense.......and sense of right and wrong........of decency.....

Well, I'll be damned.

 

You will eventually buy the products that put millions in the pocket of some CEO. That is, unless you are going Amish. Then again, they use some manufactured goods as well.

 

Which will never happen because the CEO is beholden to the shareholders. It is his duty to maximize shareholder value. But, there has to be a way to gently threaten a corporate arm twisting unless the low guy on the totem pole receives a certain percentage of the pie.

What if the corp. tax rate was raised by 15% for any company that doesn't meet a particular ratio for the entirety of their payroll? The shareholders will loose out on that amount of income therefore creating a situation where the CEO IS NOT acting in their best interests.

Gov't: "Sure you can pay your assistant peanuts while you sip cocktails on your 42 million dollar yacht, docked at your private island. But, since we will need to give tax dollars to your assistant so she can keep a roof over her head we're going to tax the crap out of your chest of gold."

While it's not a well thought out or researched proposal I think it shows what I'm getting at.

 

I like that idea. No excessive tax unless you get greedy.

 

I doubt they will go off-shore. They will probably just increase the goods cost to make up for the extra tax. Something does need to be done. There is no way to know what will really work.

 

Obviously, I was just making a vague statement to simply the idea behind goose's suggestion. In the real world, there would probably be a set of standards, as we have with the current income tax system. Greed, at least in my opinion, describes the situations where execs are paying themselves salaries at the top of the standard scale, while paying the regular blue and white collar workers at the bottom of the standard scale.

 

As an engineer working in the corporate world for almost 10 years now, I can tell you there is no way to remove regulations without harming the world around those corporations. There is no accountability at the top, and they already work within many gray areas. You would be surprised at the things they get away with now.