Cut Off At Break

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by Yambo, Sep 7, 2010.

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  1. Yambo

    Yambo Active Member

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    Sep 7, 2010
    I'm a new guy in my second year of learning to surf. Last year I was on a softtop and this year I have a heavy 8'6" Bic Peterpan. I surf in Strathmere where there is one mile to surf without much clogging.

    On Sunday I had a breakthrough day catching waves on top and cutting down the line in the face of the wave. My friends who are experienced surfers are great in how they push me to learn and let me catch a few nice waves that they would usually bust out on. Unfortunately it was crowded and a stranger kept cutting me off just as I was going to jump on the board. He was a real D-bag who wouldn't talk to me when I tried to be social. I felt like Johny Utah in Point Break. I almost was going to launch into the wave and bust him with my Bic as he came down in front of me.

    Is there a protocol among surfers about this when a newbie is trying to get good. I know, just get good, right?
     
  2. 1vin

    1vin Well-Known Member

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    Aug 24, 2009
    Thank God summers over!
     

  3. MATT JOHNSON

    MATT JOHNSON Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2009
    First off welcomer to the forum .

    If you dont alot of reading in here it can help you in and out of the water . As for bing cut off or "snaked" if he had the peak on the wave he had right of way or he could tell that you were a newb and too advantage of you lack of experience. Yes in some spots there is a heirarchy or pecking order and it there for a reason. One reason is these guys paid there dues and have been surfing the spot for many years and were a newb like you at one time. Another reason is for the safety of you and everyone around them . If you paddled out into a crowd of guys already out there that not really a smart thing to do. Best things to do is surf a bit further down from them to avoid accidently getting in someones way and the other thing you can do is watch others and be polite. Most guys will be social if you are polite and so some respect. Others are mad at the world and will be ****s till the day they die.

    dont feel bad or discouraged most of us have been in your shoes at one time
     
  4. cresto4

    cresto4 Well-Known Member

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  5. mexsurfer

    mexsurfer Well-Known Member

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  6. dave

    dave Well-Known Member

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    Dec 11, 2008
    if he was up and riding before you were then its his wave. The protocol - at least - where I surf - is when its waist high and below, if a beginner has a good attitude, you do back off and let him have his share of waves. But if its 2-3x a year conditions i.e. chest-head + and pumping with warm water, sorry buddy, all bets are off
     
  7. live aloha

    live aloha Well-Known Member

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    Oct 4, 2009
    yep...it happens. don't take it personally. if he saw you eat it a few times, he prob assumed you'd do it again. surfing has a long-standing tradition of education by humiliation, and as a "newbie" it'll happen. it just does. i've been surfing for a pretty friggen long time now, and i got dropped in on several times over the weekend. you just take it as it comes and watch them and hopefully they tear the crap out of the wave. if the guy wipes out...it's pretty hard to not get pissed. but don't! surfing is about FUN. if you love it, then keep at it, and soon enough you'll be on the other end of that situation and it'll all make sense.
     
  8. MATT JOHNSON

    MATT JOHNSON Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2009
  9. live aloha

    live aloha Well-Known Member

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  10. scypher

    scypher Well-Known Member

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    Nov 29, 2009

    Lmfao...

    And like MJ said, there are certain rules to certain spots. I know out in San Diego at the South Mission Jetty don't even try to get near the peak. Those guys will gang up on you:mad:
     
  11. MATT JOHNSON

    MATT JOHNSON Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2009

    It depends who is closest to the Peak of the wave not who stood up first. If he was at the Peak of the wave and the guy droping in front of him then he was snaked. That I was up first its my wave agrument is BS. Its whoever is closet to the peak of the wave has the rights to it. Not the seasone vet or Longboarder trying to catch it when its still a lump or the little ripper deep in the whitewater trying to work his way to the peak behind you .

    If people knew who had the rights to the wave and knew when to back off then someone was closer the the peak than them alot of arguments wouldnt happen
     
  12. Yambo

    Yambo Active Member

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    Sep 7, 2010
    I usually try to stay out of the way of you vets. I'm not used to a packed lineup after a hurricane. I will try to get my chops down better to be able to surf in a crowded scene. I'm almost 50 and want to get this down while I can still pop up on a board. I won't quit after Sunday when my lady gave me a big hug when I came in - pays off.

    My friends tell me to move on from a Bic but I'll stick with it until I have another summer to get better. What's a good fiberglass board to move up to.
     
  13. MATT JOHNSON

    MATT JOHNSON Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2009
    there are alot of local shapers in the area that can make you a board that will perform to your skill level and will help you progress better than a bic

    Jim at Legend Surfboards

    Brian Wynn at Wynn surfboards

    Austin surfboards

    Matador surfboards

    Cosmic Bull Surfboards

    are just a few , check out there sites shoot them a email and explain to them what you want and see what they can do for you
     
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  14. MDSurfer

    MDSurfer Well-Known Member

    Dec 30, 2006
    Good God!

    As a lifelong member of the professional society of English Majors. . . my eyes hurt.
     
  15. 1vin

    1vin Well-Known Member

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    Aug 24, 2009
    we Shod st@rt r own language::p
     
  16. Ray F.

    Ray F. Well-Known Member

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    Sep 13, 2009
    Spot on, Matt!!!
     
  17. brek

    brek Well-Known Member

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    Jun 17, 2008
    Most surfer's aren't going to give you much respect if you show up on a Bic. Look for a used board on craigslist. If you are basically done surfing until next summer, you shouldn't have any problem finding something. Should be able to get something for under $200. Dont be afraid to get buy a board with some dings... it's good to learn how to fix them anyway.
     
  18. dave

    dave Well-Known Member

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    its not a legal matter here with rights and this and that - if I'm out in nice sized hurricane swell and I see a guy in his 40s struggling to catch a wave with a Bic (and even if he does what the hell is he going to do with it, go straight and then fall) and I can make it, sorry but I'm going.
     
  19. LoTekSurf

    LoTekSurf Member

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    Jul 28, 2010
    That's been my approach. I'm new to surfing (second year) and I picked up a 9' long board on Craigslist for a few hundred bucks that had a good number of dings but was water tight. My second time out on it I cracked the nose right along the stringer. The next weekend I did my first repair which turned out pretty good. I'm sure glad I didn't do that on a new $800 board,

    I'm still learning the etiquette out there. For now I'm just staying out of the way and spend a lot of time watching.
     
  20. leethestud

    leethestud Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    crowds suck

    when its crowded I give a good loud holler as I make my drop in. That usually tells the kids and shoulder hoppers that something really loud is about to shoot down the line. If i still see someone dropping in i upgrade to a crazy rebel yell. If they are not off by then, they are likely to hear an earful about paying attention to what they are doing.

    Newbies: If you hear someone screaming and racing along behind you, you probably dont have the right of way. If its good, and you cant get a wave at the peak, the worst thing that you can do is go for the shoulder or hang out inside. Just get out, look around, and hike down to a less crowded sand bar or something. There are always less crowded spots for you, even if it means going to a second rate beach. There are also a lot of good golf courses around....(haha had to)
     
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