I almost posted about this quiksilver s/s full 2mm when everyone was jumping on it, but held off in hopes they got better. guess they did not. 2 years ago i bought this suit online for just under $100. i didnt even use it, tried it on and sent it back. the neck/velcro i could tell was garbage, and overall it just felt very cheap. it felt so bad actually that i thought the suit was 15 years old. felt so stiff. i also tried on an xcel slx 2mm s/s full, it was similar in junkiness. both of these suits are low end, so i guess you do get what you pay for.