the scum of the earth would be a SUP wave jet with webbed paddle. but on a serious note has anyone used webbed gloves for swim training? is there really an outsized risk to put too much strain on your shoulder or cuff?
In the 80's, Speedo made a pair that you could even slide little weights into. It was OK to train with via swimming, but proper technique and putting in the time always trumps artificial shortcuts. I suggest a simple battery powered trolling motor, or maybe epoxy a walker to your log? That would really look stylish with the fancy gloves. In swim training, try to power your back pull with your hips, instead of just doing an arm stroke. It's just like delivering a punch from the hips...much more force generated, and less strain on your poor shoulders. You rotate your entire body to generate forward motion. Unfortunately it doesn't translate too well paddling a surfboard, unless you like going rail to rail as you paddle. Try paddling on flat days with a towel tied to your leash for resistance. Do that regularly, and you won't need no stinkin gloves.
I used to swim year round and we had these pieces of plastic held to your hand kinda like a handplane. You'd use them with small leg floats so you didn't have to kick and you'd isolate and strengthen your arms. It wasn't an everyday thing and the real strengthening happened from the multiple miles we'd swim each day.
There are two equally fit individuals. One is a kite surfer who can pull on the kite and raise his body up. The other is a person with an umbrella pumping it up and down. No matter how hard and fast the person holding the umbrella pumps he cannot raise his body up like the kite surfer do to the lack of surface area in the umbrella. The assumption that rotator cuff damage will or might occure while using these gloves is a tall order. Swimming with them is still largely a mild form of resistance training. A properly warmed up surfer shouldn't tear a rotator cuff. Think of the push-ups, heavy bench presses, lat pull downs, or weighted lateral arm raises we do at the gym without inflicting injury on ourselves.
Nobody is going to stop you from going out there and giving everybody something to laugh at. Just do it man, take pics, use a go-pro, and report back. After you try this several times, tell us how your shoulders are feeling. When you blow out your rotator cuff, labrum, and cartilage, don't go crying to Roy... Daddy won't want to hear it. Cause we done told you, now go play in traffic.
I will try them. And if I blow a rotator cuff it will be from a shark yanking off my arm not from a few more square inches of surface area in the glove. Thanks for the rotator cuff advice but I think your being a bit of a "mother" on this one.
Man, no good deed goes unpunished. DP I thought you were being nice about the whole thing. Steve what you're failing to realize in your resistance training metaphor is the sheer amount of repetition in paddling strokes while surfing vs kite boarders and umbrella pumpers. I've never counted the actual strokes per session, but I'm pretty damn sure the number of strokes per arm will vastly outnumber the amount of times a kiter(is that what you call it?) essentially does a pull up or one decides to furiously pump an umbrella. And that's what's going to eventually wear and tear on your shoulders. But hey, wear the gloves, catch a few and please give us a ride report.
Ok I know I'm gonna get bashed no matter what but I actually tried these out due to having a lot of arthritis in my joints. I thought they might make it easier on my shoulders that always ache after a session. The problem with them is we naturally hold our fingers together when paddling since we don't come with webbed hands. The gloves to be effective at all, and I didn't see any really, you have to think constantly on keeping your fingers spread to maximize the amount of water you pull with your hands. It's uncomfortable to keep them spread when paddling and with my arthritis it actually made my hands get stiff faster than if I didn't use them. So in conclusion I'd have to say they aren't worth the trouble. Take the 30 bucks and get you a spare leash.
Just a note on finger spread/paddle technique.... it's actually the most efficient to have your fingers slightly spread apart - not together. I used to swim competitively and it's what we were always taught. Also, when you stroke, don't just pull/push your hand straight back. You get more power if your hand followed a path similar to that of a hour glass or "S" shape. I used to have a pair of 'webbs' when I was young too. They do seem to work as far as getting more power per stroke. But even when I was 12 or 13, I felt like too much of a kook wearing them.
That's great paddling advice. With how hard we got to battle to chase shifty peaks on east coast beach breaks, paddle efficiency has been a big focus of mine. The path described here is very good advice. I focus on digging deep and burying my elbow then pulling down and towards the center of body at a 45 then rotating palm outwards to the other 45 and kicking back and out on the follow through. I get the most out of each paddle making it a compound movement rather than quantity of strokes where some dudes just slap at the water like they were doing a broked doggie paddle. Not sexy.
Well... I know a very good surfer from my home break by the name of P Griffin who always wears webbed gloves and gets an obvious paddling advantage from them, the shoulders have to be strong enough to take the greater strain. The advantage will be greater when paddling in white water and most useful when accelerating hard to catch a wave. DawnpatrolSUP you need to pull your head in.