Death of ruggles/corruption in RI

Discussion in 'Global Surf Talk' started by littlerhody, Apr 2, 2013.

  1. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    Beat me to it.

    Funny thing is, my buddy and I were up there last fall for the Katia swell driving around with NC tags. We were a freaking novelty for most of the guys in the parking lot at Pt. Judith. Didn't really experience any vibe at any of the breaks we surfed and met some really friendly people. There was a lot of "where the hell is that accent from" immediately followed by "hope you're getting some good ones while you're up here."

    Gaff--you wouldn't believe the out of proportion rep Cali has over here!
     
  2. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    Jun 27, 2010
    What's that school that is right in downtown Newport? Those non-locals are probably the ones with the aggro attitude
     

  3. pinkstink

    pinkstink Well-Known Member

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    Aug 20, 2012
    Ya shaarkbate I have to agree with you. I've only been to Ruggles on a couple of mediocre days but the localism wasn't anything out of the ordinary. The Mass plates didn't get my car keyed, but then again I always park in the Breakers parking lot with the tourists. The spot is mint though and deserves to be saved.

    If you go there on a clean overhead day then you have to expect the crowds. There are so many less crowded breaks in southern RI though that it's your own fault if you go there and get hit with a heavy dose of localism.
     
  4. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    Absolute travesty. All because some rich Asshole won't let people access to his property.

    It better not happen!
     
  5. shaarkbate

    shaarkbate Well-Known Member

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    Jan 10, 2011
    Erock the katia swell was epic might have seen you out there. Scored huge at ruggles 10-15 feet and firinggg! probably the best couple days of surf ive ever had!
     
  6. Aquidneck

    Aquidneck Well-Known Member

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    Nov 19, 2012
    Mclovin- Salve Regina is the college you're referring to. locals are known for giving these kids a hard time and maybe thats where you find a lot of "overblown" localism. i feel that the people who get the harshest dose of localism are the ones who disrupt the so-called "pecking order" of the lineup, and dont show any respect. Localism aside, this IS a premier break on the east coast and NEEDS to be preserved. If you don't believe me, take a look for yourself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjUzYMOSTU4
     
  7. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    I dont think localism is the issue here. Ruggles isn't as bad for localism as any spot in the South East. In fact, coming from a crowded beach to Rhode Island you would be surprised at the lack of localsim. Sure ruggles my have more of it then other breaks like ****ies or breachway, but if your catching flack you deserve it.

    This is about saving a wave, for better or for worse so future generations can enjoy it, and deal with their own "localism" issues in the future. To call off helping out a surfing community for localism is hypocritical and cutting off your nose to spite your face. To say "we shouldn't help those guys because they give us bad vibes at their local break" is a worse form of localism then giving someone the stink eye in the line up.
     
  8. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    High tide mark? In Hawaii. NO BEACHES ARE PRIVATE(I know this isn't sand beach, but same idea). This guys has a house in area that is public use area. He should understand that when he purchased ocean front property. How often have they asked this guy for access to his property to repair damage in the last 20 years? I suspect not often. Probably never. If it's the only way they fix the cliffwalk is by going through his property then that is what needs to be done.
     
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2013
  9. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012

    technically through the powers of eminent domain, if the state or federal government really wanted they could confiscate his property and give him "fair market value" (never is) for it and start the project in the name of public safety.
     
  10. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Thankfully eminent domain is not as easy as you make it out to be.
     
  11. Aquidneck

    Aquidneck Well-Known Member

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    Nov 19, 2012
    To answer your question, this guy in fact refused to let anyone access his land when repairs and maintenance were needed along cliff walk in 2005.
     
  12. ocsurf32

    ocsurf32 Well-Known Member

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    Jul 22, 2012
    Ruggles is my favorite spot on the E.C. Hurricane Bill was insane. we need to save this east coast gem
     
  13. littlerhody

    littlerhody Well-Known Member

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    Jan 16, 2009
    Write letters to those two departments crmc and to department of transportation. Put the file number on. The letter and envelope. If they get a ton I mail it will make a difference. There are already attorneys and environmentalists organized so all people can do now is write letters. An injunction will be issued for these plans but Sid has all the other stuff organized really well. Please write letters the one guy posted all the right people to write to in another previous post. Thanks
     
  14. meatloaf

    meatloaf Well-Known Member

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    Nov 30, 2011
    no dont turn the ocean state into jersey!
     
  15. littlerhody

    littlerhody Well-Known Member

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    Jan 16, 2009
    There are other ways to do this job scaffolding ets without using the assholes property. Either way a jetty system
    Is ridiculous
     
  16. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    so how did they do it then? Obviously they didnt use jetties.
     
  17. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    does the fact that the jetties are temporary matter? Sure interrupting littoral drift of sand and **** factors in, but the break is rock bottom. Won't it regenerate itself after a couple years after the jetties are removed?
     
  18. downeast

    downeast Member

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    Dec 4, 2012
    The problem with this plan is no one knows what will happen as a result. The proper review channels were not activated to evaluate the impacts of this plan and what the alternatives to it are.

    It was approved under an emergency measure. I have yet to hear what the big emergency is.
     
  19. Aquidneck

    Aquidneck Well-Known Member

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    Nov 19, 2012
    I believe the repairs in 2005 were not as extensive, and the contracting company was allowed access at a limited number of properties along a different stretch of cliff walk. The problem is this time around the damaged areas are in different spots than the previous repairs, including a section that has completely collasped.
     
  20. Aquidneck

    Aquidneck Well-Known Member

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    Nov 19, 2012
    I think a major concern is that these "Temporary Jetties" wont be so temporary after the repairs are complete. these jetties are expected to be 200 feet long and 40 feet wide, and their will be four of them. one of the jetties is projected to go right down broadway through the break.Ruggles is also known as a premiere fishing spot and nobody knows how these causeways will effect the wildlife.

    Rhode island is notorious for dragging out construction and/or not completing the job in its entirety in a timely fashion.