Discussing Roy's surfboard designs.

Discussion in 'Global Surf Talk' started by Roy Stuart, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Hi Clemson, thanks for the suggestion.

    Firstly I'm not sure which design you are looking at, it does make a difference to the answer. Having said that my long board designs are all rounders and go very well on short period swells and flatter waves as well as steeper and/or long period swells, so they'll do well on the East Coast ( presumably it was swell period and steepness or lack of it which you were referring to re. the East Coast).

    Secondly regarding rocker, all is not what it seems. If we take as an example the Dragon 13'9" which is shown in the most recent videos on http://www.roystuart.biz then you might be surprised to learn that it has an almost identical rocker to the Phil Edwards Clark 10'3" blank, which is a low rockered blank by any standards. It appears to have more rocker curve due to the curve being extrapolated over a greater length. Just for the record the rocker was designed in the 2000 without reference to any boards apart from my own earlier models.

    http://www.roystuart.biz/2013/01/rocker-comparison-phil-edwards-and-roy.html

    Some of my boards have even flatter rocker in the tail for example the Makaha 12'9" shown below, which has less than 2 inches over 9 feet of tail:

    clyde 2010 097.JPG

    The rocker story doesn't end there though. Boards like the Dragon and Ghost pintails have displacement tails with very low planing lift, these can sink under pressure which effectively makes the rocker variable.
     
  2. ClemsonSurf

    ClemsonSurf Well-Known Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    I respect the work that goes into these and but I gotta ask... who's your market for these? The 9'5" Empress is pretty but $417k is about 100x more than I feel good about spending on a board... twice what I spent on a house. In other words, my wife would more than kill me.
     

  3. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    It's a wealth redistribution plan, from the ultra rich to my place. :)

    I also sell plans, so you could build one yourself, subject to wifely approval of course.
     
  4. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
  5. Zippy

    Zippy Well-Known Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    $475 thousand? This has to be a joke.
     
  6. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Western civ takes yet another hit to a new low....

    "We have earlier told you about the world’s most advanced surfboard which was equipped with an accelerometer, gyroscope along with a GPS system. The latest surfboard that we are talking about is not that technologically advanced, but is the world’s most expensive surfboard. Crafted by Roy Stuart, this Baron surfboard costs $528,000."


    I'm calling total BS here.

    Where do you even start with this sort of crap? Another insane mutation from Madison Avenue? People with lots of money & no common sense? Some guy who's figured out how to tap into said idiots? The blaze orange jumpsuit & the freaky white cap might be the tipoff here folks?

    Maybe Harvard needs to learn from this orangejoker, how to market a basic item as not only a necessity but a rarity to the wanna be clowns with trust funds.
     
  7. cresto4

    cresto4 Well-Known Member

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    Aug 19, 2010
    I think Roy's philosophy of pure surfing is righteous, his boards are beautiful, and his quote about 'who plays a foam violin?' is classic. If there are rich fools out there who want to drop a half a mil on a board you can't turn, more power to him.
     
  8. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    the videos I have seen of this board being surfed look like the board is totally out of control and not anything that anyone would want in a surfboard.... seems like this is a joke... and if not.. I really feel bad for anyone foolish enough to buy one of these things.
     
  9. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Yeah, unless that guy is just having internal balance issues, it does look rather unstable. I have surfed on bic $100 boards that have a more stable ride.
     
  10. Zippy

    Zippy Well-Known Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Im not sure Roy Stuart is joking but the peson that signed up here as him is.
     
  11. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    You should read more carefully, the article is talking about two different boards, the first one of which ( with accelerometer etc) has nothing to do with mine. The only information in the quote regarding my board is the price, and price is not a design issue thus it is not the topic of this thread. Please keep to the topic. Thanks,
     
  12. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    That's not the price, the price is $528k
     
  13. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Which board are you referring to? All of them have excellent control.

    Here's the Makaha 12-9 being surfed and it shows this very well.

    http://youtu.be/OaDnvAftVoI


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  14. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Which board are you referring to? All of them have excellent control.

    Here's the Makaha 12-9 being surfed and it shows this very well.

    http://youtu.be/OaDnvAftVoI

    You'd be feeling sorry for yourself if you had to compete with these boards as they trump the other longboards in every functional respect.


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  15. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Thanks, but all the evidence shows that the boards turn very well indeed.

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  16. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    ...except noseriding (or any forward trimming at all), which is the only reason I'm interested in longboards, and which scores highly in competition.

    So if we're gonna stick to the topic of board design and performance, let's talk about it in all honesty and reality.
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2013
  17. rcarter

    rcarter Well-Known Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    I remember an article in surfing about that Baron and the other most expensive boards in the world (museum pieces mostly). I recall them commenting on the $520,000+ price tag and how not one had been sold. Is that still the case? If so seems you value your creations way more than a surfer does.
     
  18. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Noseriding and point scoring are not functional aspects of longboarding. Noseriding is inefficient and it has a detrimental affect on surfboard design.

    My boards are designed to ride waves efficiently without reference to competition based handicap rules or requirements.

    Your post also implies that I'm responding dishonestly, I suggest that you desist from such comments and stick to the design aspect.
     
  19. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Isn't noseriding a way to demonstrate mastery on a longboard?
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2013
  20. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    x2.

    Watching the great nose-riding, board-walkin' artists is watching sport & art at a peak performance level that takes years to become expert at.