Well then correct me. I'm very interested in the actual breakdown of parts and labor as it relates to a ONE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLAR SURFBOARD. How much does the wood cost? How many hours of labor? Roy you might as well start branding your surfboards under the "Godon Gekko" label because, after all, Greed is Good. Just like Gordon, you are picking these prices out of thin air. And surfing, of course, is an industry where there are dollars to be had. Get real, Roy.
Thankyou for your interest in the building process Manisses, creation of the latest board can be seen at roystuart.biz. Regarding the prices, they are an invitation for the kind of wall st fat cats to whom you refer to redistribute some of their wealth in return for unique hand crafted items which others cannot afford. ... and the fact of the matter is that I build and ride these surfboards regardless of the level of income they produce, will continue to do so and have done so in very difficult circumstances in the past. Either way I'm happy, so don't sweat it... buying after all, is optional.
Wow Roy I had no idea the rampant features a concave deck. So the concave bottom was put in with flexible batten slats on the rocker jig ofcource but how is it put into the deck ?
Hi Charles, she's concave fore and aft in the deck, athwartships there's a slight dome, which reflects the athwartships concave in the bottom. Yes the concave was bent in using flexible jig battens.
More shaping today: http://youtu.be/aHRsvU61u-8 http://www.roystuart.biz/2013/09/shaping-surfboard-wood-parallel-profile.html
Still shaping, and thinking about concave hulls... http://www.roystuart.biz/2013/09/rampants-surfboard-design-why-concave.html
You know Roy I find it funny how in 62 pages of this thread you have yet to answer the question that myself in post #17 and NYNJ in post #37 put forth. Has anyone ever bought one of your ridiculously priced boards? As I stated in my post in January the Surfer article that featured your Baron model as well as other high dollar collector boards stated that at that time you had not sold one. Is this still true? A simple business plan tells us that if the board had actual value of even 1/4 of your asking price then you would be bankrupt building these and not selling any. Therefore one must deduce that you feel your work has great intrinsic value even though the sales and public opinion do not seem to support this. I'm sure there is no actual way to prove that you have sold one if you state you did so just like the # of licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop, the world may never know. BTW just so you know I do think your boards a very nice looking and your craftsmanship is very good but the value you seem to put on your work is insane!
You'd get better results if your attempts to pry for information used straight questions rather than the leading adjective laden phrases which you tend to post. Including 'ridiculously priced' in the question means that both yes and no answers imply agreement with the proposition. By the way the surfermag 'feature' contained at least one blatant lie and was a classic example of devious shoddy non journalism. Ben Mondy was the culprit, and as usual the group blame each other and run for cover when confronted with their own BS. I got a full page picture though so don't mind. Anyway thanks for your opinion.
Spoken like a true self indulgent prick that you are. In my first post I asked you directly had you ever sold one of these boards for $500,000+, you never answered. If Surfer lied why not have them print a retraction or sue them? And what was the lie? Was it that you had not sold one or was it something else in the article? I am going to find it in my stack of past issues of Surfer and scan it in and post it here so all can read it. Please then tell me which part of the article is a lie.
Hey Roy, I have no ax to grind with you, but I too am curious regarding the market for your craft. Could you tell us who (generally or specifically) has purchased one or more of your boards? A testimonial from one of your customers would speak volumes and silence many of the naysayers.
no one has bought any of his boards for 1.47million or any other amount. Roy says he sells the plans to build the board. Even roy knows no one would ever pay that kind of money for his boards. I thought Rarick's review was a good one. I thought he nailed it. But in Roy's defense the board must be surfed by standing in a way that one has never had to stand on every single other board in existence. I feel bad for Roy.... if he priced his boards at a 15 or 20% markup from the actually cost to build the board I bet he would be selling a lot of them. the board costs a couple grand to make. that's what it should cost a buyer, plus a reasonable markup of course.
Don't feel bad for him. I seriously doubt he expects to ever sell a board for those prices. I believe his whole business plan is to set the bar so high on the boards he builds so that he can turn around and sell the plans for a reasonable price. This creates a "perceived value" and most people who are truly interested in a wood board will most likely want to try their hand at it themselves for dirt cheap compared to the price of buying "the real deal". Which isn't a bad idea because he can simply make copies of the plans and it cost him little to nothing so it's all profit really. He uses those funds to pay for the supplies on his next build. Then he makes a new set of plans, makes lots of copies, and sells those. Rinse & Repeat. I'm sure he's thinking, "one day some rich fool is going to make me an offer on one of these boards, and that's all i'll need, just ONE, that'll be enough for a lifetime."
I have a new theory on the RS phenomenon. He's setting longterm goals. Its the "they'll love me when I'm gone plan". It's a pretty good plan. Be an eccentric throughout life. Create some pretty cool stuff. Die. Pretty cool stuff starts selling. It has happened before.