does localism still exist

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by metard, Apr 18, 2019.

  1. ChavezyChavez

    ChavezyChavez Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    You can't. It's all old money. Mr. Belmar's full name is J. Belmar Carnigie Vanderbilt.
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  2. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Can I rent for a week and become local? Plz?

    - Carnegie Want Abe Jr.

  3. Panhandler

    Panhandler Well-Known Member

    Oct 27, 2015
    I havent seen any here aside from what I put in a previous post. Some Punkazz kid tried to chirp at one of the regs, so we made sure he had a low wave count day until he paddled down a few breaks.
    Now I don’t surf too often in Pensacola by the Pier. Too crowded and beetch attitudes. Not sure it’s localism or just punk kids running their cuckholsters. I don’t want to go to jail so I haven’t gone back.
    There is a sweet spot to hit up between here and there that is a gem when it’s on in the panhandle. No crowds and the few out are a laid back group and share the stoke
  4. your pier

    your pier Well-Known Member

    Dec 2, 2013
    yes, yes it is. and when done right is intimidating as fok if you have/had no means of disrespect and are generally sensitive to feeling terrible if you treade on ones means of daily purging/enjoyment.

    try to imagine something you have that is so valuable to your sense of being that may have been passed down a generation or more. an experience you get to repeat daily, and one that you get to pick and choose when you utilize it, and when you don't - no outside influences factoring into how often you get to visit or use this thing.

    then all the sudden one day some jerks just show up and begin broadcasting it to the world and the world begins to show up in drips then a deluge to take advantage of this same free thing, which diminishes your ability to enjoy that thing. some of these jerks might stay long-term which only goes farther to reduced its accessibility. some of these tards might even do worse like further enable others to come and take part by patronizing the local economy, which only allows business to grow and offer more places to stay, or supply more food.

    these places you used to really have to search for. now because of things like swellinfo, surfline, wind predictors, google earth even a doosh like me can show up uninvited and drive right up to the spot due to a simple whittling down of things like swell, buoy and wind info. roads and development -especially on the east coast, but even to an extent on the west make checking a spot even easier. which makes making spot general public knowledge even easier.

    this, for the reasons listed above, could make a group of people fairly protective of what they "inherited", or at the least earned their way into.

    long story short, yes, there definitely is localism, and i'm ok with that. my negative impact with temporary stay in a place where people live and enjoy something that they've been given or earned, and devoted themselves to is not mine for the broadcasting. i'll still take pics of any wave, and ill even try miserably to surf it after...but if anyone has a problem with either I will also continue to abide by local customs. better than getting your shitte thrown in the water or worse.
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  5. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    I don't care for people parking in front of my house (private cul-de-sac).

    They make it impossible for emergency vehicles to get to the other houses, they block the turnaround, they are entitled selfish fokwads.
  6. smitty517

    smitty517 Well-Known Member

    Oct 30, 2008
    Fishing has more localism than surfing now. That is pretty sad. Localism to some degree ain't all that bad. I haven't seen it in a while. I dont surf crowded spots so maybe I should shut my trap. Last localism I saw was a couple years ago on south shore Oahu. A long boarder hogging waves was dismissed from the lineup. Dude deserved it.
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  7. nopantsLance

    nopantsLance Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2016
    Localism will always exist on some level however subtle. The vibe intensifies with a jetty/pier peak... It's human nature to self regulate (to bring order from chaos..) and occurs in everything from "new kid in school" to local politics. Rarely does it erupt into physical violence. Most beach towns are tourist towns- directly or indirectly- you don't bite the hand that feeds you but when pushed in a corner or in a pack the herd mentality will always be there. In my opinion if you say it doesn't exist you are part of it or choose another location to avoid dealing with it!!
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  8. Mr.Belmar

    Mr.Belmar Well-Known Member

    Aug 19, 2010

    Sorry, all the property in Belmar is spoken for, unless you have a lot of $$$....

    Although I do have a bridge in Belmar that I could sell you ...
  9. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    I’m waiting for that asshole SUP surfer to show up and start paddling all over the breaks snaking waves and backpasdling everyone. Last year was bad but since the winter season sucked everyone is gonna be edgy for each swell and that shit will not float this year. I’m a huge fan of ability and the work it takes to get it, but ability without consideration or etiquette makes you a huge douchnozzle and I’m gonna make you so miserable you’ll leave. I think I even know his first name and he’s notorious for his behavior and i gather it’s expected out of Brazilian water men and women?
    Didn’t have a clue about that but it seems to be the concensus with the local gurus. Which is sad because it gives other people a bad image. And it’s totally uneccesary - just shitty shitty manners
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  10. DonQ

    DonQ Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2014
    Smitty517 got it right by stating that localism to some degree “ain’t” a bad thing at all...and that thing aboot fishing.
    Really it comes down to respect and in this world today of self intitalment it’s been lost,
    in and out of the water.
  11. Kanman

    Kanman Well-Known Member

    May 5, 2014
    I see a lot of good perspectives being put out there. When I first started surfing I really didn't get localism... I thought it way petty. I understand it much better now and believe it does serve a purpose. It all comes down to respect and respecting people's space. When people start to disregard that, a few words or body language can go a long way.

    Wherever I go, I do my best to be as respectful as possible. If there's a group of people or even a couple of dudes out on a peak, nine times out of ten I'll go elsewhere and try to find something empty. If it's the only wave breaking or a spot I regularly surf, then I try to be patient and put in the work when the opportunity presents itself. The above methods have worked out generally well for me.

    I'm aware that some places are much worse off, crowd-wise. That's where localism is needed the most... It's like riding on beltway traffic at rush hour. Everyone only giving a damn about themselves. The best I can do in that scenario is choose to take the back roads and the longer route home... And not add to all that chaos. The guys that have been there longer, deserve it more than me.
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  12. beachbreak

    beachbreak Well-Known Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    You have stated things correctly. Thank you.

    I surf this crummy beach by myself 10 months a year for 40+ years. If i don't know you, or worse you don't know me, or you don't live here, or i do know you from summer, and you think you can just paddle out memorial day weekend through labor day weekend and take every good wave and ignore the fact that this is my home break, you are a disrespectful wave-hogging showoff non-local acting like you got a right, well, i got your "surf etiquette" right here, i always know just what to say, i always know just what to do, i am a master at ruining your day, invader, i see it as an open declaration of war, i know just how to snake, plus verbal, non-verbal, every method in the book to make you go away, go back to wherever it was you were the other 10 months of the year, i live here all my life, you don't exist, and i will completely ignore you, take what you think is 'your' wave, and though i could be attacked violently by you, said asshole, i will not suffer fools, i can't help it, this is my home, this crummy beachbreak. I am no respecter of persons.

    Wherever else i surf, i stay away from the local crew. They get every wave they want. Every time.

    There are guys in the summer that tell other people not to bother me, because they respect that i have always been out there every swell since they first started surfing. Respect. Like i have always had for all local crews. They deserve it, too.

    Pay your dues. Get to the back of the line. Wait 'til it's all clear. Or move down to the next sandbar.

    I don't need company. Find your own sandbar.
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  13. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
  14. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Sorry if this offends anyone in the conversation, but I would have beaten both those pussies into mush justbfor being complete hosebag maggots.
    And the icing on that male figure skating twosome cake was the removal of the hoodie... like he was dropping his purse for a cat fight. Shut your fuckin mouth and man up if your gonna act like that... yapping like two little doggies. THAT is the new kind of “localism” guess... maybe later they blew up the Instacram or fakebook and their little daisychain nation loved it.

    God people are complete pussies now
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  15. mantas2

    mantas2 Member

    Feb 25, 2019
    Post says the no leashing longboarder was pushing kids off waves. All 3 of them look like they need an ass beating.
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  16. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    All talk no action. Guys who know how to throw hands and are willing to do so usually don’t say much, they will typically let you run your mouth till they have had enough and them BOOM! Instant silence.
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  17. beachbreak

    beachbreak Well-Known Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    I know. This is only worst case scenario for nonchildren who should understand but do not care. Lifeguards taking up most of the space all july-august does not help. I try to let it go, and usually can just vibe selfish wavehogs away, but it occasionally gets ugly and verbal or snakeage becomes necessary. Jersey shore can be impossibly awful in the good old summertime. There ain't no cure for the summertime blues.
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  18. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    So I just remembered a small incident like that video about 6-7 years ago at Ponce Inlet, only with kids who may have been teenagers, idk, it’s been a while. Only they never left the water, they just yelled at the other kid to paddle in till he followed orders. But that’s about it. Like others have said, if it’s gonna happen, it’s usually going to be at a Pier, Jetty / Inlet with a small take off zone.
  19. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    You missed my point but not by much - it was the two jackassholes yapping and acting like idiots for the crowd that I have a problem with. DP says it perfectly. It would have been a short left jab as my board dropped and a quick pivot for a right to the chest plate for goldielocks. But then again, I don’t do dumb shit in lineups either...
    And an edit for general purposes - I’m no badass, just had my share of beatings and crap growing up so you either get beat down and hide the rest of your life, or stand up and fight back. My father didn’t give me a choice to hide so I learned how to make a stand. It’s my “trigger”. And gets me in trouble sometimes.