Donald Trump potus 2016

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by White Sea Ape, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Stuck in that bubble buddy. This isn't worth countering because it is so not rooted in reality.
     
  2. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    I never said that and I never said I was a conservative. I like to think independently. But since you bring it up, the point is STOP THE BLEEDING....most advocate stopping the influx of illegals as a "good thing"....except liberals b/c it bolsters future votes. Campeche? Then, maybe we can figure out how to deal with the millions already here (11mm is a low #). I have heard many conservatives state that it is nearly impossible to actually ship them out of here but we need to start somewhere and if it means building a f'n wall so be it. Do you understand?
     

  3. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    And they are willing to accept a lesser wage because they are here illegally and are being paid under the table in most cases, not getting taxed, and sending as much of that money back to THEIR country / family, basically stealing money right from our economy and stimulating theirs back "home".

    My Dad works with several people who do just that.
     
  4. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    What?? There already ARE laws on the books regarding this. Nobody other than farm companies use illegals. We don't need more laws. We need more ammunition.
     
  5. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Not saying who is at fault. Just saying that your statement was untrue... And now you change it to fit your argument.
    Weak sauce homey.
     
  6. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Where'd I change?
    It's the systems fault, not the people, and the calls for their heads is nuts. My argument was and is, give em status and let them pay in and to raise the wages for everyone.
     
  7. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Ammunition?

    Seriously dude, ammunition, we had a good thing going here.
     
  8. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    We already gave them status once before under a Republican presidency, and it aggravated the situation. It got way worse. Are you unable to learn from your mistakes??
    GO TRUMP!!!
     
  9. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    You said NO American had their job taken, they just won't do them... I said they DID have their jobs taken...

    And you come back with "well whose fault is that?"
     
  10. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    Non citizens can't vote, so how does it bolster anything?

    The wall won't stop anything and it won't actually ever happen. The political class ALLOWS this to cater to the corporate class and they don't care what you think. The "bleeding" is a windfall for both groups, lower wages=higher profit=more lobbying and donations lining pockets.

    Trump will not change this.
     
  11. Codfish

    Codfish Well-Known Member

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    Aug 10, 2016
    No I stand by they won't do them, because of low wages and harsh conditions, not that they were taken by anyone from outside the country. Two separate issues guy.
     
  12. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    It's not separate. They were doing them so the conditions weren't too harsh before. Then people came and did them for less because they could afford to.
    The wages weren't too low until someone showed up undercut them.
     
  13. Southern Comfort

    Southern Comfort Well-Known Member

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    Mar 22, 2015
    For reals bra, you bang hindus? What about your whip? Got the new iPhone 17q? How much you bench and can you shot honeyton?
     
  14. PintailDonkey

    PintailDonkey Well-Known Member

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    May 4, 2016
    That and forcing folks on welfare to do public works projects ala Roosevelt's New Deal!
     
  15. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Dude, I said future votes. Pathway to Citizenship bam...11mm++++++++++++votes!

    The southern boarder has to be part of the solution....period.

    I doubt you listened to Trump last night...I actually did. He says some stupid stuff for sure but what he was saying about the donor class and the corpos and the career politicians was so right on. He is the only one talking about addressing the true problem in Washington. He may be an idiot at times but he is talking about what most of America is Frustrated with....A Corrupt System. And before you rebuttal with how he has used the system to get rich, I will tell you it is a far cry from how Hillary has made her 100s of millions and I will debate that with you all day (not really I need to scoot but you know what I'm saying)!
     
  16. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    And you think Hillary's gonna change the system?
    The system Hillary helped design and has benefited from?
     
  17. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Fukin Busted!!!!!!:eek:
     
  18. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    .........and you're voting for bigger govt why?
     
  19. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    B/c he is a hypocrite Arch!
     
  20. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
     
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