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Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by Blair, Jul 31, 2015.
Sea isle city is getting the beaches built back up. Will this affect the breaks?
The question should be not if, but how?
then how long?
then it's when?....
Why do people call it dredging? Sure, they're dredging sand from somewhere else, but they're not dredging the breaks. They're doing just the opposite.
Not a criticism of the OP - I hear this all usage all the time - just wondering why we call it that. It's ass backwards and inaccurate.
Pumping sand changes the surf but often for the better. The North end of Ocean City is way better than it ever was before they started pumping sand in the early 90s. It usually just messes things up for about 2 swells.
You are dealing with surfers here....not one iota of brains amongst the sum total of the entire bunch.
Yeah, yeah, everybody who surfs there is crying bout it. Everybody acts like it's the end of surfing as we know it. I think this is the 4th time thy have done it there. By end of Winter, the sand bars up the north end near Strathmere will be working again. In the meantime, let's ALL go to 7th street and Waverly...
sometimes it makes the break better,super very super fuking rare.
basic physics lol,they take the sand from the ocean(ur break) and put it on the beach.all those sandbars and sand is gone.have to wait for mother nature to wash some of the beach sand back out to the ocean.every spot they dredged in jersey destroyed the breaks.every one!!!!my 1 spot used to be like 30 yards of sand then water with like a 50yard jetty.after the replenishment,the beach had about 300 yards of sand,jetty completely buried.the spot never awoke
Pray for a big cane swell or a nor'easter or two to hit it and wash away the sand. Really strong onshores is what you need. Otherwise you may never see that jetty break again.
It's called dredge and fill. Others call it beach renourishment, but there is not much nourishing about it. I call it dumping sand in the water and on the beach. Kills the reefs, destroys the hardbottom ecosystem, makes the water more turbid and murky so more dangerous for sharks to bite you by mistake. They tax us, then don't let us park there, no public restrooms or showers, just to make sure the rich folks don't get their condos washed into the ocean. Planned retreat is the best answer to rising sea levels. Unless they just assess the property owners and not tax the rest of us, and don't raise our property insurance rates to subsidize the rich who own endangered waterfront property. Big connected money is who does these sand transfer operations. Cayman Island bank accounts are being set up and filled for local commissioners who vote and approve these projects.
They dredge the sand from a borrow area not your break
They pull sand from a borrow area, usually pretty far from the beach, where the sand has similar characteristics to the beach they are restoring. They do not pull the sand from the sandbar that you surf. Pumping that sand in large quantities onto the beach near your break will change the surf there for awhile.
OCNJ has a blog about the restoration project going on there this summer: http://ocnjdaily.com/ocean-city-nj-beach-replenishment-2015-daily-update/
What you ask for will not be here until 2016 at the earliest. This year, an El Nino year, is predicted to be caca for storms.
WORD! Preach it brah!
people used to build small beach houses for their personal use not mansions to rent to tourons for profit.
Beach renourishment has totally F*cked up FB break. A couple storms should help remove the sand and so the cycle will continue.
Borrow pits often get used up too quickly to support sand requirements. Then darker, grittier sand is used, which makes the beach too hot for turtle nesting. They also truck the sand in from onshore sources (on land), which tears up the roads due to all the heavy dump trucks. It's a mess.
Here's a more "natural" approach that I've come across: www.erosion.com . It's not dredge and fill or bulkheading but works like fingers following the slope of the beach into the ocean, perpendicular-wise, not parallel like some other unsuccessful methods. By following the slope I mean into the water, not with groins or jetties, so it traps the sand as it flows along the shore and builds up the beach "naturally".
It's a once and done operation, so ACOE, Army Corp of Engineers is not in favor of it. Go figure.
Check it out: www.erosion.com
It's not the canes that'll do it. NJ will get a couple Nor Easters from December to March and that'll make some bars out of the sand they replenished. Some spots will disappear, some will be not as good as they were before but rideable, and some new spots pop up. It's sand. It moves. As always, seek and you will find.
Just like that!
ya its the non-tropical winter storms that pound for days that really sort out the beach fill and move the sand back out to the bars and - El Nino is linked to increased nor easters, and more intense ones.