Duck Dive

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by akaBoardBoy, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. akaBoardBoy

    akaBoardBoy Member

    Jul 15, 2008
    Hey all, I have been questioning myself about duck dive...
    Since I finally had money to buy 4/3 wetsuit three months ago so I can surfing in the 35-45 degrees water... but I noticed my duck dive is different now. My board is 6'2" Rusty Bob 2 1/4" thickness... When I duck dive with rough rip current, for example today waves in NJ, waves intend catch me and pulls me back and made me paddle longer board isn't buoy enough to dive and resist the rip current under the wave..... I only weights 160lbs and I assume with full wetsuit adds up 10-15lbs while in the ocean. So do you think with the wetsuit adds up weight on the board affects the duck dive?
    Hang Loose
  2. eshore

    eshore Well-Known Member

    Jul 22, 2008
    Maybe your board is too thin or you just havent done in a while but i weigh about 120 so i am not a lot of help

  3. Conspiracyrider

    Conspiracyrider Well-Known Member

    Feb 4, 2009
    Maybe the wetsuit might absorb some water making it heavier and a little harder, i ride a 6'3 Ksmall with 2 3/8 and duck dive just fine and i weigh around 190 but maybe i got weight on my side lol
  4. wbsurfer

    wbsurfer Well-Known Member

    Mar 30, 2008
    practice duck diving you will only get better.
  5. akaBoardBoy

    akaBoardBoy Member

    Jul 15, 2008
    Mm okay, I do duck dive that well but with that 4/3 wetsuit, I do felt the difference... I am trying to figure out that if that wetsuit actually affected that...
  6. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    im no cold water warrior. but where I live in the summer the water is 70 winter gets about 57. I go from boardies to a 4 mil fullsuit and my duckdiving is never affected.

    so what I gather is that it is probably the fact that u r exposing urself to super cold water.

    I mean, today the water temp is 58 and I duck dive as little as possible. and if its not a big wave, I don't go deep at all. its just a natural reaction. the colder and darker the water, the more I don't want to duck dive deep. I think its a physical response. tighter muscles and a mental thing.

    just guessing tho.

    jamie obrien did a cool article a few years back in surfer mag. he said how once u go down on ur initial duckdive, to hold both rails;about mid way up the side, then move the board back and forth downwards, side to side and the board will drive u down deeper. its a weird screwdriver affect. im not too good at it, but jamie says he can get like 20 feet deep with his board in hand.

    that would really help surfing the north shore.
  7. akaBoardBoy

    akaBoardBoy Member

    Jul 15, 2008
    Yeah maybe that ha... I haven't surf since September because of college which is far away from the ocean. I think I haven't gotten used with thicker wetsuit and colder water. I just realized I never thought of that the colder water the more dense which make it more difficult even with wetsuit... I gotta practice and get used with it. Thanks tho guys.
  8. radicalbro1026

    radicalbro1026 Well-Known Member

    Oct 6, 2008
    dude im not trying to be an asshole or anything but you gotta learn how to talk...
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  9. pvjumper05

    pvjumper05 Well-Known Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    lol beat me to it. but at least you can understand him
  10. dave

    dave Well-Known Member

    Dec 11, 2008
    a 4/3 isn't thick enough for this time of year in NJ, I mean, you can do it, I did it for years as a broke-ass HS and college student, but your not going to last that long. Meaning your muscles start to lose power and flexibility very quickly, esp. during a duck dive where you're gonna have some flushing - thats why its harder. Also -- a heavier suit isn't going to make it easier to dive -the opposite in fact, as its more bouyant.
  11. Shakagrom

    Shakagrom Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2008
    oh my god duckdiving yesterday was a *****!! I had to take like 4 or 5 hollow pounding 8 ft. waves on the head, by the third one i just couldnt feel my head anymore... that is my sole motivation to go to college somewhere warm, and maybe when i get older i will move to bali. haha
  12. terra-firma intolerant

    terra-firma intolerant Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2008
    I hear ya, bro, my duck-diving was the pits too. God I need to upgrade my 3/2...
  13. surfnj

    surfnj Member

    Jun 3, 2008
    i live in jersey and im 165lbs and ride a a board that 2.15 thickness. you just need to practice duck dives in the summer i will bring my board in the pool and practice them
  14. wbsurfer

    wbsurfer Well-Known Member

    Mar 30, 2008
    at the end of this winter you can buy my 4/3.
  15. Salty

    Salty Well-Known Member

    Jul 10, 2008
    think about it - this is not rocket science! - wetsuits have air bubbles (that's how they help to insulate you against the cold!) - and they are buoyant - that's why scuba divers wear weight belts!
  16. Shakagrom

    Shakagrom Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2008
    yea i know, i scuba dive. air is the best insulator of heat, that is why it is used for wetsuits and drysuits.
  17. wbsurfer

    wbsurfer Well-Known Member

    Mar 30, 2008
    dont forget your pee and your body heat.
  18. Wavetucker

    Wavetucker Well-Known Member

    Jul 4, 2008
    My thoughts exactly!! I find it hard to believe a college actually accepted someone with your lack of skill set??? Forget trying to duck need to learn ENGLISH! I'm just curious..what did you score on your SAT's(math must have been your savior)?
  19. conway

    conway Well-Known Member

    Mar 24, 2008
    unlike wbsurfer
  20. NSsurfer

    NSsurfer Well-Known Member

    Jan 8, 2009
    i think it has do to with muscle. Your all in your bordies and 2 mil wetsuits in the summer time.. then when you strap a 4/3 or thicker wetsuit on your now pulling up to 15 extra pounds. It may be more bouyant (sp?), yes, but the boyancy (again) IS the added weight. Get more muscle, and you should be fine.