Duck NC

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by seldom seen, May 30, 2019.

  1. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    To the town of Duck or phuck or whatever... if you don’t like it, get off your whiny asses and vote these useless town officials out and elect someone who will realize there IS a workable solution that is fair but will take Some balls to do. Just like us poor massholes and you ding dong Californians - we let these tumors into our governance and they spread like the clap at freshman year - and when they get a foothold it’s all over.
    So in short, if you don’t like it, fix it, suck it up or
    Start busting windows and flaming bags of poo are in order. Also maybe beat that withered old hag with a 36” mighty intruder double end.

    There! I fixed everything!
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  2. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    So does this mean that if a person wants to access any private property in the USA then they should be able to just because they want to? Trespassing is fine because it’s the entitled you?

    Rule of Law, gents. As Biggsy makes sort of clear if you don’t like the laws, vote the changes that you want. Assaulting law abiding property owners, eh, not so much.

    Until the centuries old laws governing ownership rights of private property owners are changed, then private property is private property with inherent rights whether it’s near an ocean or a lake or a highway or wherever. It’s sacrosanct. You can get arrested or shot or both for trespassing on private property.
    As it should be.

    Rule of Law not mobs of humans or entitled humans deciding what laws do not apply to them.

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  3. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    But apparently that would make you socialist. Shouldn't the rich be able to buy and own as much beachfront property as they can and keep us plebs out? I mean this is 'Merica ffs? They hard worked for it, sheer entitlement to think the public should have access to beachfront that is deeded to the public!
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  4. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    I don't know, did you miss the part where it clarified the beach he was trying to access was public? I know, socialism.
  5. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Amigo, it's a moot point. It's not private property. It's a public beach with convoluted laws regarding the access points. Maybe take the political blinders off on an issue from time to time.

    Remember your old sig.."It was the law of the sea they said, civilization ends at the water line, beyond that we all enter the food change, and not always at the top"...interesting how things change.
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  6. Wavestrom

    Wavestrom Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2014
    Wouldn't work at Duck it looks like but in some spots the answer could be to take a boat to the break, then paddle in. They can't tell you to stay off the beach, just that you can't cross 'their' land to get to it.
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  7. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    The Town of Duck's website also says this about how beach nourishment in Duck is funded:

    "The project cost was approximately $14,057,929 and was funded through revenue derived from the Dare County Beach Nourishment Fund ($7,094,929), with the remaining $6,963,000 funded through a combination of General Fund appropriation and Municipal Service Districts (MSDs). That is, the Town’s portion of the cost of the project was funded by a contribution from all of the taxpayers in Duck"

    So $14 million in public funds were used to pay for the project, including $7 million in County Funds. I hope this isn't a case where $14 million in public funds were used to build a public beach, and then access to that public beach, by the general public, is severely restricted by the owners of property whose houses are being protected from hurricanes and erosion by the publicly funded project.
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  8. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I'm a pretty live and let live kinda guy for the most part. If that was where I lived and I saw a guy passing through with a surf boart I wouldn't hassle him.

    If a guy is causing no harm and is just going to the beach, then who cares if he walks on that access? He wasn't hurting anything or causing a disturbance or littering or anything from what I can gather.

    I would be dumbfounded if that would have been me passing through and someone started hassling me when I'm minding my own business and not being a nuisance of any kind. It's not like he walked right through their house or even their lawn. Just seems to me they were looking for a reason to bitch, and those people deserve to be shunned.
  9. Banned for being awesome

    Banned for being awesome Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2012
    Not so sure. Go to the southern part of NC to see some good good ol boy vs Northern tourist action. On display may - august.
  10. DosXX

    DosXX Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    ...or maybe a nice big hurricane with lots of flooding to clean them out of there.
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  11. La_Piedra

    La_Piedra Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2017
    The town of Duck should probably create an easement for access. They know exactly what they're doing and in essence, have created a "private beach" situation so that public parking and beaches remain private to avoid the usual summer nonsense.

    While I can definitely appreciate the owner's stand, it goes without saying that if you live at the beach, you will be sharing it with others who don't live there.

    This sounds like a job for the Surfrider Foundation.
  12. DosXX

    DosXX Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2013
  13. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    Maybe toss your passive aggressive approach "amigo" and refrain from personalizing things. Might get you places :D

    The laws seem to be "convoluted" as you state but that's your opinion, not the facts. One man's convolution is another's Rule of Law.
    Drivers doing 80 mph on a highway where the speed limit is 55 mph may appear to be confused with what seems to be a convoluted law, since the roadway can easily accommodate 80 mph velocity rates, and yet a State Trooper writing you that speeding ticket would inform you that there's nothing convoluted about it: the law is the law, your interpretation of it is what's convoluted.

    Keep it coming this is interesting, at least :rolleyes:
  14. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    When you don't have a case, attack "the rich." After all, people who have worked hard to gain some sort of financial security in Life are the true enemy of those who want the free shiiiiiit.
  15. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Duck’s lack of access is by design. Each road into a division creates nearly impenetrable access to the beach without crossing private property (don’t even think about parking anywhere on the road lol). But, if the access is “public” then the private property signs should be removed and access granted to the beach. There are a few places to “access” but parking and walking to them is a nightmare.

    As for taxes (relative to nourishment project), those mega cottage owners pay a pretty penny in taxes. Collectively, I would imagine a large chunk of that revenue came from them. Nearly all of Duck homes are middle to upper end of assessment value for that county....
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  16. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    You seem to have missed the part where the beach access aspects are private property. And that's why the guy got busted.
  17. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    'The beach access located at the end of Seabreeze Drive is a private access owned and maintained by the Sand Dollar Shores HOA.

    Because the accesses are privately owned and maintained, the Town cannot grant permission for their use and unauthorized use could be deemed trespass as it would with any other private property. The Town does not monitor any beach access locations with the intent to discern between authorized and unauthorized users of a private beach access. The Town will respond to complaints of use by unauthorized individuals and these are handled in conformity with other simple trespass complaints.

    Beach access locations in Duck, whether on easements or individual property parcels, are available to Duck residents, renters, and their guests through private accesses maintained by neighborhood homeowners’ associations (HOA). These accesses are not available to the general public as they are not owned or maintained by the Town of Duck.'


    And that's the Law. Time to call out Antifa, eh? Riot, block the access pathways, assault people, destroy private property....or, maybe folks could enact change via voting. Or, just go elsewhere.
  18. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Jury is still out. Let’s see if he is correct on the public access...I hope he wins and they have to remove their sign. He is a local dude ruffling feathers for something he believes strongly about. Seems like he may have a case (although $$$ could “fix” this real wuick lol).
  19. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    You first Senator OP.
  20. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Lol. Simply summarizing logic I've read. If public lands access falls under your umbrella of free shit then yeah.