Duck NC

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  1. Not zaGaffer

    Not zaGaffer Active Member

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    Nov 14, 2017
    "Rule of Law not mobs of humans or entitled humans deciding what laws do not apply to them."

    The Rule of Law exists solely at the pleasure of the mob, just ask Robspierre.

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    *running with the psycopathic hatchet dark ninja edit
     
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  2. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    Interesting historical citation.

    The King of the Terror.
    His execution decided by the political enemies in The Convention.
    Carried out at the blade of The Convention.
    Not by mob action.

    Uncertain of the link you’re trying to establish between Robespierre’s death & The Rule of Law, but definitely want to hear more :cool:
     

  3. La_Piedra

    La_Piedra Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2017
    The fact that it's a private neighborhood with HOA rules and dues makes this problematic to acquire public rights to access

    Pretty sure the State would back the township in any litigation even if this case makes it that far

    Doesn't look good for the surfer. Whatever happened to that case in Deal NJ?
     
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  4. SCOB3YVILLE

    SCOB3YVILLE Well-Known Member

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    Nov 16, 2016
    Yeah. Where’s Rudy’s beetch ass at?
     
  5. Not zaGaffer

    Not zaGaffer Active Member

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    Nov 14, 2017
    Oh c'mon Yank, don't act like you don't know where I am going with this, Bread n Barnum

    You really gonna make me tell you what I already know that you know that I know that you know? Alright, but only cause I like you.

    Robspierre was a demagogue who's power stemmed from the mob and once his influence with it waned (cause Paris was still starving), he lost power over the mob and his political enemies had him killed. Meaning that the mob is fickle and dangerous.

    Good enough? And to be honest I have a dilettante's interest in the French Revolution. Mostly that it was the best of times and the worst of times and the rest of the time I don't really give a damn, but most importantly that the peasant mobs of Paris overthrew what 2 generations prior had been arguably the most powerful monarchy in Europe.

    My point though is that the "Rule of Law" only lasts as long as we all agree that it exists, right? Le Roi et le droit. However, much like vaccines it depends on a "herd immunity" or in this case a "herd mentality" that we all or at least a majority of us agree to abide by it; but the idea is just that a logos. Logos lose power when people lose faith in them.

    We have measles in this country again because of anti-vaxxers. Typhoid fever in LA. In the Congo, they brutally murder the Doctors who treat their loved ones for Ebola. Again, this a metaphor for a general breakdown in society.

    https://www.criminallegalnews.org/news/2018/feb/16/us-murder-clearance-rates-among-lowest-world/

    Most crimes in this country go unsolved, yes? The rule of law in this country consists of a legal system that doesn't provide justice to victims, inarguably favors the well connected and wealthy, and based on statistical data, seems to even have a racial bias. Would you like me to cite specific examples or can we both agree that these are confirmed truths, like the Shoah, and move on?

    My point then is, anyone who knows anything, knows that the police aren't there to protect them and that the American legal system does not have their backs and it's one of the least corrupt! Hence why we are all so loathe to move an inch on the 2ndAmd. Shall we get into whether or not Americans trust their government?

    I think the concept of the rule of law is built on a sense of community, egalitarianism, and a trust that laws will be administered equally regardless of one's wealth and political connections or lack thereof. If you don't trust your neighbors, your police, your government; then what faith do you put in the Law?

    I think it's as tenuous and as fragile an idea as a house built on the sand of a barrier island, on the Atlantic seaboard and more than anything depends on the goodwill of the members of a community and their common interests. Especially when the inevitable hurricane or mob rolls through.

    Dude was walking on a path, with a surfboard, to the beach. Not hopping over their fence and breaking into their house, and nor since we are talking about the concept of trespassing in the Western tradition, poaching their game. Just walking on a path that everyone in that insular, private community uses, from a public road to public area. What if the cops came and shot him for that? At one time, I would have considered that an outlandish statement. Not so much anymore.

    San Clementinians have homeless people crapping on their lawns, no bull. San Clemente. Home of my 2nd favorite President, Richard Milhouse Nixon,RIP, and that dirty rich hippy Cali Slater. cops be like, "LULZ gangweed." 2 generations ago, in that town, they were kicking surfers out of Trestles.
    Times change.

    Tell me about the rabbits, George.
    Tell me again about that shining city on the hill.
    Carthago delenda est.

    I worry about my kids.

    And my drink is empty
     
  6. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    Tremendous stuff Z :cool:

    (And I’m sending the 1/4 Cask To ya at my earliest opportunity)
    :D
     
  7. Not zaGaffer

    Not zaGaffer Active Member

    33
    Nov 14, 2017
    Bring Short Round, the cask, and come surf with Scobey n me. Surf for weeks on the radar. Rent a camper and set up base camp at SanO like the Pascowiczes. Get you a run about for day trippin.

    Man, this new kiddo ain't a sleeper. Dawn patrol is gonna be about 4 or 5 hours late
     
  8. SCOB3YVILLE

    SCOB3YVILLE Well-Known Member

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    Nov 16, 2016
    My buddies an I have 2 spots at San o (trail 6 I believe) aug 18, 19 and 20

    Let’s shreddddd.
    Home was really freaking good the past 2 days. Even with the 432 million gallons of untreated sewage Mexico dumped Monday/Tuesday
     
  9. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    Want / need to burn some of these many millions of miles & points.
    I'll email you or text you, Z. It's been too long. I could totally go for that scenario. The sewage spillage, ahhyeeeah, maybe not so much :D
     
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  10. Manik

    Manik Well-Known Member

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    Dec 25, 2015
    One thing that me and Bob Kraft have in common....... we both like happy endings.
    Good stuff gentlemen.
     
  11. goofy footer

    goofy footer Well-Known Member

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    Sep 23, 2010
    After Currituck Shooting Club and Pine Island Duck Club sold of their several thousands of acres of Ocean and Bay side holdings back in the 90's Corolla exploded mostly NJ & NY money building those "Hampton" size homes with Southern charm. So earlier poster about it being "yankee" money is true.
    Some Virginia folks saw the potential in Duck, Sanderling and Whalehead area purchased lots and made a killing after the late 80's real estate recession.

    Like Duck, developments control beach access with no parking @ beach access points and if you were towed road trip to KDH to retrieve your vehicle.

    Mrs. Goofy & I loved the Corolla area, surf was OK but it was the last open range of beach left until Currituck County changed the tax structure on
    un-develop land forcing sale of so much sand the investors/developers rush to take advantage.

    Currituck Club thousands of acres was owned by CEO of Haines underwear out of Winston Salem so sad they had to sell since its been a unofficial North Carolina land mark since before the Civil War.
     
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  12. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    The coastal real estate playing field will change again once FEMA changes its private property assessments for homes located within designated flood zone areas to risk-based assessments. Next couple of yrs, although it’s already, slowly commencing.

    As a result of FEMA’s actions, the property tax premiums for those places are already jacking upwards. Buyers market is in the pipeline, imho.
     
  13. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Interesting reading buoys and nice to see some of us are well read...

    One thing that stuck in my head though was Z’s comment about measles and “anti vaxxers” - let’s be honest... we have resistant polio, measles, rubella fever, etc etc etc because of the wide open door policies regarding our borders. These new strains are being introduced by people coming from countries that have no vaccination plans or the ones they have are crap. Plus like everything else in nature, things evolve to survive. Blaming anti vaxxers for measles is kinda weak coming from what obviously is a semi intelligent brain pan...kinda surprised me after reading that. Sorta like someone stepped in and typed some shit when he went to the kitchen to fuel up to type more;)
     
  14. NNYNJ

    NNYNJ Well-Known Member

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    Dec 22, 2017
    If anti Vaxxers have nothing to do with the measles outbreak and it’s due to open borders/ new strains then why is it primarily hurting the orthodox Jewish community?
    Wouldn’t it spread to everyone if it was strains that we haven’t seen and can’t prevent?
     
  15. Not zaGaffer

    Not zaGaffer Active Member

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    Nov 14, 2017
    I was thinking in between sets today, "If the mob does not rule, why do people buy Twitter bots?"
     
  16. JayD

    JayD Well-Known Member

    Feb 6, 2012
    I think it has to do with a sense of comfort.
     
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  17. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Good point, and I wasn’t trying to say that non vaccination isn’t a problem either, it just sounded like Z lumped the entire issue on the non vaccination people. Which is not the case at all. One of the biggest problems the CDC is finding now is the strains of diseases coming into the country have evolved to survive in their hosts and are more resistant to our vaccines and also they are apt to be more severe. Drug resistant polio is a good example. But I digress, my point was that for a guy who has all that knowledge it didn’t sound right is all.
     
  18. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Because that is not a mob mentality, it’s a herd mentality lol
     
  19. Yankkee

    Yankkee Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2017
    Keeping this treade careening off the rails & through the woods.

    Perhaps the anti-Vaxxers are trying to avoid the, ahem, literal shot in the arse...?

    :D
     
  20. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Fkn A Gaff. Fkn A.