EC Oil Exploration, Official as of Friday

F**kin' Bastards!

 

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Solar roadways are a cool idea, but they are selling something they can't currently produce.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/solar-panel-highway2.htm

We have a long way to go before we will be free of oil dependence. In the automotive industry, we are taking baby steps by improving combustion technology. However, the world needs a huge leap, and none of the current ideas on the table seem that promising.

 

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Let your voice be heard - FILL THIS OUT and SEND it ! We OPPOSE offshore oil exploration on the East Coast of the United States!! Esp in the Mid-Atlantic region! !

 

I know a guy that's high up in the electricity game. He was talking about an idea they had where the big electric company would come and install solar panels on your roof for free and let you keep the savings. The only catch was that you had to more or less give them an easement to your roof. It wouldn't work in all areas but if they could cover large areas the savings could be significant. Another downfall is with the present technology the panels need complete sunlight over the whole panel. If there are consistent shadows or the panels aren't clean they lose efficiency and break down faster so you might have to cut some trees.

If you look at it with the same mindset as the pro-vaccine (not brain dead) folks it is a way that everyone can work together to improve the situation. With that being said, it's hard to break free once you're in that deep.

 

Yes, exactly. I have been in the automotive industry directly, and indirectly, for 9 years now. I have worked in engine development, petroleum chemical development, and injection system development. People don't understand how difficult taking the next step really is. Many will claim X car from 30 years ago had more fuel economy that the cars of today. What they don't seem to get, is that that old car had 50% less safety equipment and 100% less emissions equipment. I am also a nature lover, and consider myself an environmentalist. I just know that we have a long way to go before oil isn't a common energy source for vehicles.

Again, we agree here. Nuclear energy is the most efficient and clean source for this country. It just seems to have too many safety issues. New reactors are much safer that the old ones, but the worst case scenario always ends up in mass radiation contamination. We are also still only working with fission, which isn't the best. Now fusion energy is something to push for. They have had some successful reactor experiments with fusion, and there could be a breakthrough with that in the next decade. Then we could save the oil for cars and trucks.

I would love that idea. I am hoping solar panel technology keeps improving and getting cheaper. That is something I would consider investing in for my house. I just don't think it is there yet. Soon...

 

It all comes back to the money. Over time the prices of tech drops. Solar panels were insanely expensive when they first came out and now consumers can install them on their own homes and cut costs. The technology for them has improved too, just like all other products. Same idea can be related to TVs, when the flat screens came out no one could afford them unless you we're very wealthy, now everyone has an LCD in their home for the most part. Nothing is going to happen overnight. But looking back over a hundred years, humans as a civilization have come leaps and bounds. Wright brothers had their first flight in what 1903? We're in space now! I'm optimistic with these things and technological advancements. I think the solar panel roads are an awesome idea but no where near feasible or practical right now, especially at seven grand per panel. But if you project say another 100 years into the future, there could be a good possibility for something like that being a reality and little to no dependence on oil. It will happen gradually overtime. And with the amount of gasoline cars on the roads now, the dependence on oil isn't going to change anytime soon. Like brew said, cars today have A LOT of safety gear packed in there. Any car you drive today is much safer by comparing to cars of 30-40 years ago, but if you stripped all that weight away your fuel economy would go straight up. That's just basic physics right there, takes more energy to move more mass. But going back to seldoms initial post, potentially fcking up all the ecosystems in the atlantic is not good idea to get to that oil, at least in my opinion, as I'm sure most of you would agree with me.

Just submitted my info, thanks for the link!

 

"Don't blame me, I voted for Obama-Texaco, not BP Global Romney"

The best reply ever. Both parties are for sale

 

What a cop-out! You're too poor to be environmentally friendly? Being truly poor IS environmentally friendly. If you couldn't afford your car, you'd be forced to take public transit or bike to work. If you couldn't afford to eat meat, the products you consume would require hundreds fewer barrels of oil to produce. If you couldn't afford a computer or internet connection, all that electricity you use wouldn't need to be generated from a coal-fired powerplant. If you couldn't afford to take a surf trip, you wouldn't burn all that gas (or jet fuel, if you're richer). If you couldn't afford a bigger apartment--or if you couldn't afford to climate-control it, you'd be using less fossil fuels. If you couldn't afford a new board or wetsuit, all those petrolium products would sit idle in warehouses and those oil rigs out there wouldn't be wothwhile for BP to build.

You could voluntarily do all these things. Eat veg. Sell your car. Forego that surf trip. Don't buy that new board/wetsuit. You're not a slave to anything but your own desires, and those corporate "masters" you talk about, are just profiteering off of your self-indulgence.

I'm not telling you to do all this, I'm telling you that the environmental destruction is yours and you need to own up to it. I drive to work. I run a computer. I eat meat a few times a week. So I can't shake my fist at those oil platforms or curse BP when I step on a tar ball, either.

I agree that we should petition our representatives for better energy sources, but like the Engineers will tell you; it doesn't come free, and it doesn't happen overnight. If you want all-electric, all-solar, you're going to have to face power bills that are 10X higher. You're going to have to live with a lightweight vehicle with poor range and cargo capacity, and convince all your friends of the same.

A while ago, a floating nuclear reactor was proposed. Predictably, enviro-nuts went crazy, complaining about danger to the environment from such a risky idea.

Thing is... there are already hundreds of floating nuclear reactors operating on and under every ocean in the world, and they have been for 50+ years without a major incident, courtesy of the US Navy.

 

Well looks like Sharc*** is back from the dead. Looks like I'll have to update my ignore settings.

 

haha! also production and installation of those things wouldnt cause any environmental degradation (?)

 

Ok firstly, these corporations that have been brought up (I have not named any specifically in this thread) inflate the sh!t out of their prices to make a profit. Unfortunately this is how the world works. Earn profits, screw the little guy. Look up how much profit they make per gallon of gas and per barrel, it's flat out robbery and we pay it because we don't know what else to do because we choose to not know what else to do. And do not mistake my retort as a "cop out". I do my small part and put the effort in when I can trying to leave the smallest carbon footprint as possible. And on a personal note I can't afford my car, I'm behind on the payments because 3 years ago I was a complete idiot and self centered that I needed that specific car, didn't care how much I had to pay for it to get it. Don't get me wrong, I love my car but I'm completely upside down on it. And unfortunately without that car I don't have my job (20 miles from where I live, with my grandmom because I can't afford my own place anymore). We don't run AC to keep the electric down and I use the computer at my office. My bank account is -50 bucks right now until my paycheck and then it's gone right away to pay of stupid debts I put myself into. I live much much simpler than I use too. Going to the store and not using plastic bags, driving like a grandma not revving above 2000 rpms to be as fuel efficient as possible, recycling everything and trying only to buy products from companies that do give a sh!t about the environment. Am I a saint all the time with everything I do? No I'm not, I'm an American in New Jersey. I would LOVE to just say eff it and move down to Chile and have my own farm that's completely off the grid living off the land. I'm doing the best with what I've got, which isn't much to work with. Over the past year I've downsized on a lot of crap, gotta rid of gear, donated clothes, etc.

Also, the lighter the weight of a vehicle the better the range it's going to get. Install solar panels on your home and your paying the up front installation costs, but theoretically you can live off the grid if they generate enough energy. Would I like to do this? Yes. Can I afford the the material and installation costs? No. This is my point I was trying to make earlier. You're comeback, which is very true by the way, the less we spend/use the less overall emissions there are going to be, but this in itself just sounds like a cop out on life itself. I'm more than willing to own up to my own carbon footprint and try and improve it for the better. Like I said I'm working with the cards I've been dealt. I can assure you though that if I had the kind of money in my pockets that the people running these "corporations" I'd be using it to try and make a bigger overall difference than I can now instead of over indulgence and living in pure gluttony like so many do.

 

Don't forget the cut the government takes too!

 

Great post, Seen. Destroying the planet & other species for money. When does human greed end? When?

 

Thanks man, I feel like that's how big brother wants it, as many people living paycheck to paycheck. That could just be paranoia talking too, after all capitalism is like survival of the fittest. But I know was loaded I'd be making investments into good eco friendly companies and just trying to give back rather than use everything on my own. There was a time I wanted as much money as possible so I could do everything for myself, but nowadays I'm more about trying to do for others more than I do for myself.

When the human civilization comes to an end unfortunately

 

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