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not at all. in the middle of a rally there would be a swell and everyone would leave.

im actually working on a nuclear powered wave machine right now

 

not at all. i hate to say it, but surfers are for the most part a rather selfish bunch. the ocean/wave energy thing has come up before & was shouted down by surfers in europe b/c it could have an adverse effect on wave quality.
personally, i would like to see a move toward increased utilization of solar & wind energy...or better yet, utilization of regional energy sources...solar where its sunny, wind where its windy, geothermal where there's a lot of geological activity, etc...would keep costs down & eliminate the need to ship fuel all over, thus reducing the amount of energy used as well. win-win. is it perfect? no, but at least i have an idea...

 

Surfrider....

and less nuclear = more oil

 

one of the few exceptions to the selfishness thing. & how many surfers are members out of the millions of surfers in the world? & of those members, how many are actually active in the local chapter & how many just pay their yearly membership fee & put the sticker on their car to make themselves feel like they're doing something?

 

I think too many people (rank and file guys) are getting a little turned off by Surfrider. For the last several years when surfing and environmental/political activism clash, surfing looses and many members are uneasy about that.

 

mmm,surfrider.HATTERAS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

exactly. IMO, surfrider can no longer claim to be a truly "grassroots" organization.

that said, i'm still fairly active in the local chapter...i just pick & choose what to take part in.

the fact that surfrider continues to support beach replenishment is a total turn off for me...

 

you wouldn't even need to use solar only in sunny places. Just because it's cloudy doesn't mean there's no solar energy, clouds don't make it that dark outside

 

i don't know how i feel about nuclear energy. i am generally not an environmentalist, but i am pretty big into having a nice clean ocean. i use gas so i guess i'm a hypocrite. i think most of this go green stuff is nonsense, and this is why. my fiance showed me an old report of hers from back in college. it was about climate change. did a lot of research myself after reading it to make sure it held water. the number one cause of detriment to the environment is believe it or not factory farming. all the methane from cows is more detrimental to the environment than all the cars, trains, and boats combined. i think the same was said about most factory's too, but that i don't remember. it's been said time, and time again that a vegan who drives a hummer is doing far less damage to the environment than someone who eats meat, and supports that industry who rides a bicycle everywhere. so all this go green government solar energy stuff is garbage, and i think al gore is full of ****, because he is not a vegan, but still stresses environmentalism.


i eat meat myself, and i'm not telling anyone they need to stop, but if they wanna make a difference i would worry about that before riding your bicycle everywhere, or claiming to not warm up your vehicle, because of waste, and emissions bull s h i t on cars. don't get me wrong none of that stuff is helping the environment at all, but it's not doing as much damage, now the government isn't gonna tell you that you can't eat meat anymore or have to buy free range dairy. they just can't do that so they resort to all this green crap. i definitely believe in climate change, but i don't think the main factor is my cars, my lawnmowers, my dirtbike, my electricity, or gas. it's my meat eating.

 

The "go-green movement" is a multi-billion dollar business. that's all it is. It's a business. Yes, it's good intentions, but with greater consequences. People are cashing in on this, and are using terror and "what-if" questions to get people to listen. We continuously underestimate the power of earth, and I think we are arrogant to think we can change the earth so dramatically in 100 years, which is SUCH a minuscule percentage in earths geologic time frame. I'm in college now, and its quite an insult how one sided (left sided) EVERY professor is. I say we drill the hell out of Alaska's northern slope, embargo all eastern oil, which would recover our recession fast as hell, and subsidize and give grants on research for better energy solutions.

sorry to make this kind of political, i digress. but i've been bottling up that little rant for quite a while.

 

you sir are wise beyond your years!!

 

From someone who works in the "Green Building" industry, you are right. A lot of companies cashed in on this energy-saving movement, and the whole thing is just nothing but a good PR move, that's all it is.

 

Cue the solar panel banner ----->

 

this is exactly what i thought when i was going thru college and was majoring in integrated science and technology and was first learning about global warming before it became this big cash cow. one could easily see how much money would be made from this movement when it was in its early years. im at the point where i dont really care anymore about what the shiesty moneyholders of the world are doing anymore since i really dont have a voice due to my lack of millions of dollars. they are going to do what makes them more money and will burn anyone to get there; ill focus my attention elsewhere, thanks

 

haha
And the re-useable water bottle advertised on the "Botteled water thread".

{Lightbulb} Someone should start a thread titled "tranny's" and see what kind of ads pop up.

haha

 

Ocean energy is attempting to be harnessed on the small scale but the problem is nothing is nearly as economically as what we have in place now to supply our energy needs, tides waves and deep ocean currents have all been attempted to be harnessesed in small amounts but their output level versus their cost is not viable.

The most succesful way to harness ocean energy has been the OTEC system (google it) but even this system has adverse heating effects on the local environment.

Nuclear energy is honestly the cleanest/ most economically things are currently