EPS Epoxy vs. PU Poly

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by HighOnLife, Jun 12, 2015.

  1. Van Man

    Van Man Well-Known Member

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    Mar 4, 2015
    +1 on the great info

    That little bump this morning was fun!
     
  2. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    Jun 27, 2010
    I found a happy medium between the two: shortboards are epoxy, funshapes and longboards are poly.

    Can somebody school me on technicals between stringered and stringerless epoxy? Just on aesthetics, I never really liked the look of the stringerless ones, cus it looks like a popout
     

  3. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    All epoxies are pop outs, imho.
    Look at surf tech--no original designs of their own. Cookie cutter approach?
     
  4. mrcoop

    mrcoop Well-Known Member

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    Jun 22, 2010
    New to eps...but as of now, from my very limited experience with eps... I will take eps over poly in the small grovler to hybrid range...got my first eps and love it...like the lightness of the board when it's small..poly for shortboards and step ups.
     
  5. Slashdog

    Slashdog Well-Known Member

    May 22, 2012
    LBcrew, thanks for the quality info.

    I've definitely ridden epoxies that I felt were 'chattery' and sat too high in the water. But thinking back, I've also ridden an epoxy fish that I liked a lot; it was mostly in chest high stuff in Argentina. So I know it can be done right, or at least in a way that I find responsive (with my meager skills and 'experience').

    Either way, I am getting tired of fixing dings (I only have PU/PE boards). I treat my boards pretty well but there's just always a ding to fix. I'd really like to grab something more durable. This Lost-Libtech collaboration is interesting, and so is hydroflex, but I'd prefer to keep my money local (if and when I get some, that is)... will definitely be hitting up you sage mofos when I marshal some fundage.
     
  6. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    I don't like fixing dings either, but epoxy boards get dings as well, don't they?? I never owned one, but have rented many on surf trips.
     
  7. antoine

    antoine Well-Known Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    I beat the $hit out of an epoxy torq I bought 2 years ago and no dings... so far! yeah it is floaty but its an easy paddle fo sho. Its pretty good for strength as well meaning it has sustained some serious shore poundage.
     
  8. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Marko EPS foam doesn't take in water or very little. A lot less than PU foam. Stretch uses marko and uses great EPS tech for great binding. the boards are almost bulletproof. All shaped by hand in the USA with continuous rocker and volume in the right places. Stretch riders/shapers have actually ridden the boards with open dings and the foam didn't take in any water. Just great boards in my opinion. Just ride one. If you don't like it post it on this site and I will buy it.
     
  9. RhodyPedro

    RhodyPedro Well-Known Member

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    Jan 24, 2012
    "All epoxies are pop outs, imho." Barry, many of them are, but epoxy is just a resin and anyone (backyard shaper) can use it. It's also super easy to use for repairs.
     
  10. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Yup, I get it. Nevertheless, I will stay with PU boards. I do not like overly light boards, or the chatterly characteristics of EPS on the water. Just opinion.
    And, as for being light, I can lighten up just as much as a surfer on an epoxy board by taking a pee. If I want to go even lighter, I go take a dump. Totally adjustable. So the board weight issue is moot.
     
  11. antoine

    antoine Well-Known Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    So, after that dump you might be down to 6lbs 8 ounces... you know... your original birth weight?
     
  12. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    hahaha!! Good one, but maybe so, antoine, maybe so.......
     
  13. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    For a while there I was painting stringers onto my stringerless boards, or boards with just fiberglass or HD foam stringers, just because I was so used to how they looked. Now I'm over that, and don't mind not having that sort of subliminal point of reference in front of me.

    I really hate fixing dings with epoxy... just because of the long cure times. But the giveback is... you get fewer dings, and when you get them, they tend to be not as bad as if it were poly.

    It's all personal preference, though. Some people don't give to craps what their board looks like... for others they have to be a work of art. Some people can't feel the difference between a twin fin and a thruster... some people shave millimeters off their fin edges.