Explosion at Boston Marathon!

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  1. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    yeah, I do have a question.... how little do you know about muslims?
     
  2. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    god if only we could crack down on all these christians/caucasians. they're the same thing right mfittz?
     

  3. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    coming from a guy that doenst even know that a muslim practices islam, a lot more than you
     
  4. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    Okay... you got to find that and point out where I said that. because I can't find it.
     
  5. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    really? where was that stated skippy?
     
  6. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    i already quoted it. read back. it said something about "to start i never mentioned islam"

    im over this man its like trying to explain the electoral college to a brain dead 1st grader
     
  7. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    ok, I can't believe I got suckered into this....

    Trevolution and Newenglandflatness you guys are completely clueless clowns.
    I suggest you guys go and get hooked on phonics. Then take a reading comprehension class.
    You guys are giving surfers a bad rap for cognitive abilities.
     
  8. trevolution

    trevolution Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2012

    there ya go bud. im out of class waves are firing, have fun wallowing in your ignorance with your muslim friends that don't practice islam
     
  9. newenglandflatness

    newenglandflatness Well-Known Member

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    Oct 12, 2012
    Look, I don't feel like discussing this tiny facet of the conversation. We got lost when you offered the Irish example and I stated that Islam is a religion, not a race.

    My point is this: If the bomber happens to be Muslim, the Muslim-American population has absolutely zero responsibility to "get its act together" based on the actions of a few crazies who happen to adhere to a distorted version of Islam (as you like to call it, the Muslim faith). The responsibility lies with every single person to not make generalizations based on faith, ethnicity, religion, race, etc. While I'll grant that if the bomber were to be Muslim, it would certainly increase anti-Muslim sentiment in this country, that doesn't make it right. This is all I have stated.

    Again, even allowing your comparison to the Irish, THAT DOESN'T MAKE DISCRIMINATION RIGHT. Groups subject to bigotry must somehow "earn" their way out of the prejudice? As a society, I'd like to think we strive to not repeat our own errors.

    You're caught up on this Islam v. Muslim conversation and ignoring everything else.
     
  10. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    I understand you guys got lost when I said "muslim faith".... I'm sorry if you got lost on that. Next time I'll write as though my audience is ignorant. Okay, is that fair enough for you?
     
  11. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    well tell that to the japanese living in america in ww2. yeah, see this is a perfect example of how you 2 guys got lost. my comparision of why it needs to come from the muslim community and how the irish banded together is appropriate. as a group, race or religion or both, the changes need to at least partially come from within. There is no difference if the irish collectively make efforts to better their role in society or if muslims come together to do so.
    this is why I questioned the comprehension skills of you two after your replies...

    which brings me back... what happens if its a muslim? you don't think there is a chance of society turning against or showing more anger towards them?
     
  12. newenglandflatness

    newenglandflatness Well-Known Member

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    Oct 12, 2012
    Look, let's just go back to my initial response to your comparison. I'll take out the Islam is a religion line for all of our sakes.

    Again, I just, personally, don't think groups, be them ethnic, racial, religious, etc. need to earn the right to not be discriminated against.

    I really don't think we need to start blatantly insulting one another's intelligence while ignoring the valid points brought up by both sides. Let's talk like adults.

    EDIT And on that note, I'll say that when I referred to spewing sh**, I offer that only in response to society's group behavior. I don't mean to insult your intelligence with it, I just disagree with that line of thought (And this was before things got quite so feisty).
     
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  13. NJxSurfer

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  14. newenglandflatness

    newenglandflatness Well-Known Member

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    Oct 12, 2012
    In my post you quoted in this post, I grant that it would increase anti-Muslim sentiment. Again, I just don't agree with the thought it's up to the Muslim-American population, the vast vast vast majority of whom have nothing to do with any terrorist activity, to change the perception of the bigots in this country.
     
  15. scotty

    scotty Well-Known Member

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    Aug 26, 2008
    This^^^^^^
     
  16. MFitz73

    MFitz73 Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    Quote Originally Posted by newenglandflatness View Post
    The stereotyping that "naturally occurs" is only propagated by comments like yours.

    no, this not correct. In this life, if muslims continue to be the ones setting off bombs or trying to bomb people in america the stereotyping will be reinforced. That is why I originally said what if its discovered to be a muslim who did it? Currently the american population associates terrorist acts with muslims. I didn't make that up.
    So you guys jumping all over me about it is why I fired back at you guys. but like you guys I to am tired of this and pretty much covered everything I wanted to say on the sideshow...
     
  17. newenglandflatness

    newenglandflatness Well-Known Member

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    Oct 12, 2012
    Look, you're continuing to ignore the vast majority of what I'm saying. If we can't do this rationally, then you're right, let's just not do it at all.

    No hard feelings Fitz. Seriously. Just a large difference in opinion.
     
  18. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I agree that religious groups and ethnic groups shouldn't have to earn the right not to be discriminated against. It's not fair to the majority... But sometimes the minority ruins it for the majority in the court of public opinion...
    -When a guy shows up decapiteted in a barrel in Texas we assume it's Mexican Cartel.
    - After the Rodney King beating we new it was Black dudes were rioting (even if it wasn't on TV)...
    I personally saw Muslim Americans celebratin in the street in Paterson NJ on 9/11. Those people ruin it for the Majority who are good citizens... It's up to them to tear down the sterotypes, fair or not.

    I don't know who bombed Boston. I do know that they are scum no matter what color they are and beliefs they have.


     
  19. staystoked

    staystoked Well-Known Member

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    Dec 27, 2009
    NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORIST, but all terrorist are Muslim..and unfortunately stereotypes are based on reality..but in regards to Boston it was probably some deranged white dude. Caucasians be crazy
     
  20. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    I got 2 hats just like his.
     
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