^^^^ Yeah man. I was really surprised to hear this news. Although some of his songs were dark, i never saw him as a dark or depressed guy. Kurt and layne on the other hand....suicide dosent surprise me. Cornell i just never expected that from. I was actually just thinking the other day how hey would be one of those guys that keeps doing his thing well into his older years, someone i could see with my future kids or something. Like the way i see a bunch of old bands with my pops. Guess not. Very sad. Happy i got to see him a few times. I was honestly never a huge huge fan, but you can't deny his talent. And I did enjoy all his music.
People like that have ups and downs. I know... When they hit a low, it only takes a minute for them to do something they can't take back. If they just could have gotten through that moment, they'd still be with us. But the moment comes back... I guess there's only so much of that you can take....
he never lost his touch.there will never be a replacement [video=youtube;KhJ9IwYc5NU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhJ9IwYc5NU[/video]
been sober for a while! there were many dark days and I'm glad I never acted on any of my crazy thoughts! grew up with this music and booze and drugs take a real toll on a man soul! was he sober and just depressed! once again, the dead only know one thing! it is better to be alive! PEACE you shredders!
I just found out about this an hour ago through a Facebook post. I was hoping that it was a hoax or some fake news, like when Mr Bean supposedly died a couple months ago. I started listening to Soundgarden in the late 80's, back when they were on SST Records and nobody knew who they were. I also saw them in 88 or 89 for the first time and I think a couple more times before you couldn't see them without going to some huge concert at MSG/Giants Stadium/etc. I don't like any of their albums after Badmotorfinger. A few songs here and there, but not entire albums worth. I still regularly listen to their first 3 albums though. I have Ultramega OK on vinyl and a couple others on cassette and CD's. I'm gonna listen to Ultramega tonight on my record player when I ride my bike in my room. I think I have both the Fopp and Screaming Life EP's on vinyl too. I was never really into a lot of the grunge stuff, Bleach and Nevermind were cool by Nirvana. Pearl Jam's early stuff is good music, just not stuff I really like. I only liked the first couple Alice In Chains albums because they basically sounded to me like some of the Classic Rock (which was then Modern Rock) I listened to as a kid, when I first started getting into music. Definitely liked Soundgarden more than any of them, BY FAR! So I was sad to hear this news. Especially when he has still been fairly relevant as a musician. So now, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley and Chris Cornell are all gone. Same with the Mother Love Bone guy, who died before they gained any kind of popularity. Eddie Vedder is the only remaining singer left from those big Seattle bands. Those guys are only 6 or 7 years older than me or would be 6 or 7 years older than me. And then Scott Weiland died a little over a year ago, I know it's sacrilege to compare STP to those bands. R.I.P. to Chris Cornell.
It's pretty scary how some of these guys had songs that seemed to foreshadow their deaths. Kurt Cobain had a few songs about dying young and I believe he even had a few songs mentioning suicide, if not vaguely or in some weird cryptic way. He even had a few songs mentioning guns (even though they weren't about killing himself). Layne Staley had some vague death references in some of his lyrics. It even goes beyond guys of that generation. There were a lot of older artists that mentioned dying and wound up not living too much longer after they wrote those songs. There's quite a few examples, but my mind is really foggy due to not sleeping too well last night.
Interesting point LB. I've wondered if some folks are predisposed or destined to commit suicide...ups and downs then no can handle. I have mentioned here my good friend took his life. He actually tried to hang himself and the line broke and he lived. It was almost 15 years later when he finally took his own life. rIp Cornell.
That's sux dude, hate to hear stuff like that. A co-worker of mine recently shot himself. You never know what someone is going through. People always say, he seemed "normal" or he was in "good spirits". Most people just learn to fake the appearance of happiness but deep down are in pain.
I think you're right... and I think it's knowing that those feelings are only temporary that helps you get through. I've had some really rough spots in my life, but never once thought about going big over it. Other people... like JayD said... they just aren't wired the same way.
Clinically, that is part of the diagnosis of depression, and in part, also of bipolar disease. And a lot of those performers are known for heavy drug abuse, self medicating to "get them through"..... A lot of them,but not all, would still be alive if only they had sought psychiatric help.
I wish it were that easy Barry. Most of the time they just give you some pills to take to make you "better", only problem is those pill end up causing more problems for a lot of people and they do more harm than good. The talking to a professional / therapy thing can help to some degree I believe, but the drugs they hand out like candy are bad in most cases. Opinion based on personal experience.
Well for certain, therapy doesn't work for all, but for most, some measure of life prolongation is attained. Pharmaceuticals for mental illness are far from the success antibiotics pain killers, or anti arthritics have, but for many they have improved lives and saved them as well. Our brains are a final frontier needing lots of research. Once we succeed there, we will then know how moronic we actually are.....not to mention retarded.
Prolong their life or give them higher quality of life? IDK, I think I'd take the quality over the quantity at a certain point. But I get what you're saying. And yes, we're all morons / retarded, but I can speak for myself on that.
My point on the moron bit here is that, once we control misfiring brains, we will realize how the brain repairs other misfiring organs. Mental Health is a key to longevity, consciously or subconsciously by governing organ function (brain stem or lobar)
I just saw an update from his family saying he was on some super strong anti anxiety meds,and that he took an "extra" which may have led to suicidal thoughts,idk. in a fukd up way lol all these musicians had psychological issues which led to their great music.look at todays music,all these clowns came up the nice way and their music sucks. I remember hbo did some documentary about kurt cobaine,i couldn't even watch the whole thing it was so fukd up all the sh1t they were saying but it was true so.and layne,scott,eddie,and chris were all similar. only difference is chris and eddie got sober and stayed sober