Fin set ups that work for heavier surfers

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by MrBigglesworth, Jul 10, 2018.

  1. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Prolly been talked about a hundred times before, but I want a fresh take on it. I’m no giant but at 5’11” and 215-220lbs I’m a lot of meat to spread out on a boart and I a few major factors come to play for me: float and speed. I tend to surf front foot heavy and wide stance and fairly low on the boards, and on my LBs it’s not as much of an issue with speed because they are so forgiving of bad technique, but with the step ups I’m noticing I’ve got to come up with gimmicks to keep speed along the rail. Pumping and stepping around on the board, etc. The step ups are both quads and I’m thinking I have too much fin and that coupled with my weight are killing my down the line speed. One other part of it is I’m top heavy so I have a really small range of give before I’m too high and the boards start to carve on their own.
     
  2. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    So what’s the question?
     

  3. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Good point. What works better or what’s the school of thought with four fin setups verse three or even a twin fin, with fish style boards and the issues of float and speed? Is that too wordy? I just wanted to know what works to remedie the stalling -

    Learning to surf better? Hahahah
     
  4. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Well, certain fin setups compliment certain boart shapes better than others. On a LB I prefer a single fin. On a HPSB I prefer a thruster setup. Some prefer a quad, they say they are faster and have less drag. I think quads are more appropriate for a wider tail.

    I personally haven’t found the magic with a quad but I have the 5 fin converter on my SB’s and have tried the quad setup a few times. Maybe I need to try the quad some more and give it more of a chance? I think ultimately it’s all about your surfing and the conditions you are surfing in.

    If you are stalling you could be taking a bad angle on your bottom turn, not getting your boart on rail, not driving off the bottom, not turning your head, shoulders, and hips toward the wave on turns, and not staying in the pocket while taking a good line and using cutbacks at the right time to stay in the powerful part of the wave. Being too far in the flats or too far up the face can slow you down. Find the suite spot.
     
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  5. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    Now that I think about it I honestly think it’s me and not staying in the powerful spot or missing it on my bottom turn, and thinking it’s the stall coming first, when it’s actually a result, not a cause.
    Good insight. The beauty of it is, I also have found similar things with changing fin setups on my boards, so it’s not all beennwasted time.
    My big DelRay is crazy fast and holds a rail even if it gets super steep on me and it’s a large/medium quad, but it will not turn unless I put my forward foot almost to the pinline towards wherever I’m looking to turn. I removed the two rear and it got really squirrelly and slow so it’s true about what works with the specific boart. Good food for thought
     
  6. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I also find that catching the wave at it’s peak and not from further down the shoulder helps with the speed and keeping that momentum.
     
  7. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
    That’s often how I end up catching them unless the shoulder is really defined and consisant so I know where I’m paddling back to to pick up the next set wave. Spot on-
    Best session I ever had was this February when we got three days of glassy 12 second period chest high/head high looooooong rights and crazybquick lefts... I caught some head high right at the shoulder and did everything right and they were awesome - but it all started at that spot and with that energy and speed. Check that box off. Now just give me some swells to try some changes
     
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  8. La_Piedra

    La_Piedra Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2017
    That "fish", while a nice shape, probably has few (if any) "fish" characteristics because it is, in essence, a longboard...or at least, much to long for a real fish.

    Fins with more rake tend to make longer carvier turns IIRC. I think less rake and volume make for easier turns? Not a big fin expert, but I know what I like and what works for me.
     
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  9. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018
     
  10. MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2018