fish oil

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by ocsurf32, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. Greenlight

    Greenlight Well-Known Member

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    Nov 13, 2008
  2. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Roy does not partake of breakfast.
     

  3. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Most important meal of the day.
     
  4. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Negative, although it depends upon what one's used to. I have more energy without breakfast.
     
  5. Slashdog

    Slashdog Well-Known Member

    May 22, 2012
    I Eat Pieces of Sh*t Like You For Breakfast

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    Similarly illeism is used with an air of grandeur, to give the speaker lofty airs. Idiosyncratic and conceited people are known to either use or are lampooned as using illeism to puff themselves up or illustrate their egoism. The artist Salvador Dalí used illeism throughout his interview with 60 Minutes's Mike Wallace, punctuating it with "Dalí is immortal and will not die," although this may have been a reference to the legacy of his art rather than his actual self. The wrestler The Rock was notorious for this, mainly to enhance his persona to a superhuman level

    "Jimmy and misunderstanding kinda clash."
     
  6. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013

    Maybe, although I sometimes use the 3rd person to lampoon myself you should also realise that in some cultures the 3rd person is used to write about oneself impersonally, this is seen as less egotistical and more polite. This is the case in china, for example.
     
  7. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Ahem...

    "The men who said they skipped breakfast tended to be younger, single, smokers, who worked full time, did not do much exercise and drank more alcohol.

    The researchers also found when they adjusted the results to take out the effect of body mass index, high blood pressure, high cholesterol and diabetes, the links between skipping breakfast and higher risk for heart attack or death from coronary heart disease became much weaker: they were no longer statistically significant."


    In my case the case is irrelevant since I am not overweight, have normal blood, do not have diabetes or high cholesterol, have normal blood pressure (low for my age) do not drink alcohol and exercise regularly.

    Also the study says that eating late at night is a risk factor which is associated with skipping breakfast, however I do not eat late at night.
     
  8. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Wow, good for you. Pick the negative in one study to fit your beliefs. Still stands that most people are better off eating breakfast, and it still helps morning mental alertness.
     
  9. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    This thread sucks now. Was a pretty good discussion of various diets and supplements that different guys take and we were all being fairly intelligent and academic about it. The kind of thread that peeps would come on SI for the first time and thinks it's a good place. Then this thread went down the schitter and from the looks of it, the whole weekend has been an idocracy on the forum. Glad I was busy rippin peaks in the wave pool out here in the desert and paying no mind to that rubbish! Hope the weekend went well for you braziers and that your Monday starts off well. Try and use a few more brain cells than you did here this weekend.
     
  10. Roy Stuart

    Roy Stuart Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    I simply read the study thoroughly, if you had you wouldn't have posted it in support of your case.

    i disagree on both counts, I find that not eating breakfast improves alertness as the body does not have to put energy into digestion.

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  11. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    I read the studies, and wasn't focusing on one benefit. The studies disagree with you on alertness.
    I am not sure how you expect all this energy and alertness without the fuel required for both.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/351598-is-eating-fruit-for-breakfast-healthy/
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195666303001314
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9537627

    Don't trash this thread anymore with opinions. If you are going to counter something, have enough respect to at least research and post some studies.
     
  12. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    As with any thread RS posts on, this one is degrading to snide remarks and opinions.
     
  13. mushdoc

    mushdoc Well-Known Member

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    Jan 30, 2013
    Kettle and pot.
     
  14. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Right, when have I made snide remarks (when not a reply to a rude comment)? I believe I posted about the benefits of eating fruit for breakfast, but then we moved down the path of opinion. Just like the fish oil topic. I have been respectful and polite, and have been posting studies to back up my comments. What have you contributed?
     
  15. mushdoc

    mushdoc Well-Known Member

    323
    Jan 30, 2013
    Ok-
    Fish oils-I am a graduate from Emory University. Practiced general medicine for 3 years and found that I was opposed to the approach of dispensing drugs for every condition. A good friend told me about his practice as a Chiropractor and the all natural approach to health appealed to me so much that I opted for a career change.
    I have been practicing as a D.C. for 12 years. I have had over 200 patients tested at either Lipid Technologies or Metametrix Clinical Lab for the Omega 3/ Omega 6 ratio.
    All of those that have taken a quality Omega 3 supplement have seen significant improvement.

    As far as should it be taken? You can find links to support whatever argument you want. I have put in a lot of time on this subject and my conclusion is that the vast majority of data proves it to be of benefit.

    Breakfast- There is no doubt that fueling up at the start of the day is best. Some people have a really hard time eating until they have been up for several hours...

    Comments- if you can't see how condescending and snarky some of your comments are then I would suggest reading through some of this thread. Posting a link and then sneering that someone is wrong because it refutes whatever link you found is evidence enough.
     
  16. mushdoc

    mushdoc Well-Known Member

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    Jan 30, 2013
    Ok-
    Fish oils-I am a graduate from Emory University. Practiced general medicine for 3 years and found that I was opposed to the approach of dispensing drugs for every condition. A good friend told me about his practice as a Chiropractor and the all natural approach to health appealed to me so much that I opted for a career change.
    I have been practicing as a D.C. for 12 years. I have had over 200 patients tested at either Lipid Technologies or Metametrix Clinical Lab for the Omega 3/ Omega 6 ratio.
    All of those that have taken a quality Omega 3 supplement have seen significant improvement.

    As far as should it be taken? You can find links to support whatever argument you want. I have put in a lot of time on this subject and my conclusion is that the vast majority of data proves it to be of benefit.

    Breakfast- There is no doubt that fueling up at the start of the day is best. Some people have a really hard time eating until they have been up for several hours...

    Comments- if you can't see how condescending and snarky some of your comments are then I would suggest reading through some of this thread. Posting a link and then sneering that someone is wrong because it refutes whatever link you found is evidence enough.
     
  17. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    All but one post I made on here was straight forward, and had no comments that were snarky. Yes, I got a little rude with Royboy, but that is my response to his normal communication style. If you took them as snarky, maybe you were already judging before reading.

    As for your experience, that is good information. I am not sure what controls you used, or what other factors could be part of the study. Did you write a paper or record results? I would love to see it. Keep in mind, the study I posted was for thousands of patients. However, with the right controls, your data may be just as valid.
     
  18. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    It would be very interesting to see what response you get with the same study population if they just ate lots of fish during the same time period. Would they achieve the same, better or worse results? Because most people on this thread that are refuting fish oil are refuting the source of the oil as being degrading to the balance of the oceans food chain. The anti fish oil caucus is saying rather than eat fish oil, just eat fish. This way the krill and the menheden can flourish and sustain the rest of the fishies.
     
  19. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Krill and menhaden > humanity.