Sam Simon(of Simpson's fame) is doing the world a solid deed right now. With him and a few exceptions, I find most richers to be pretty ghey, along with their trustafari offspring.
The meat you eat isn't exactly cheaper. That $5 dollar burger really cost $10. The difference is made up with your tax dollars which part of it goes to govt. subsidizing the meat industry.
Oxford dictionary definition of a documentry: 1.1(Of a movie, a television or radio program, or photography) using pictures or interviews with people involved in real events to provide a factual record or report:
I am not quite sure of the point you are trying to make here. No one can loose sight of food for an extended period of time or else they will die (or they physically can not see the food which I do not believe pertains here). Nothing here has any real substance of any kind pertaining to your argument. I am taking the liberty to para phrase your argument into, "Human kind should devote all of our effort into cultivating a culture which is both vegan and only eats plants grown with organic methods" Please correct/reword this when you get a chance so that it is clearer in this thread going forward what exactly your "point" is that you touched on. Moving on I would like to make a few points on your second paragraph... 1. I applaud you for believing in something. It may be difficult for you to fully grasp (it certainly is for me) that the world we live in is not a farming society any more nor will it become one in the foreseeable future. We do not all have to farm in order to move the human race and the world forward in order to ensure a greater planet for those who come after us. To elaborate further....In fact it is quite the opposite. Being that the majority of the world does not need to spend countless hours farming land frees up a huge amount of people who can serve other jobs and needs. Examples.... Can an emergency room doctor who works 12 hour shifts then go home and farm??? Can a NASA scientist who may live in land unsuitable for farming go home and raise enough food to feed an entire family? How can a man who works in a city farm? Bigger question...aren't we better off having emergency room doctors and NASA scientists instead of everyone spending their farming and eating organic vegan food? Reality is we are not a farming society anymore nor should we be. 2. The automation of farming has made fruit, vegetables, and other natural foods available to more people and at more affordable prices. How is that bad? 3. I believe for most of society food does come from a supermarket. What is the point you are trying to make? This is the world we live in. 4. In regards to your last paragraph. Just because you don't "see" it does not mean that those affluent people are not making a huge difference behind the scenes, doesn't mean that they are, but it doesn't mean that they are not. I believe that most humans are worried about personal survival and having to exert as little possible energy on it so that they may use their surplus of energy for life experiences.
Death and taxes... It is a personal choice what I enjoy eating and where I choose to spend extra money whether I eat burgers or organic salads my taxes aren't going down. Taxes never actually go down, they just dip a bit before going up higher then dip a bit before going higher still... Also doesn't the $5 salad really cost $10 because of government tax dollars that go to programs relating to "non-meat" industry??? ^^ ??
Not possible. There will always be evolution and mutation, which leads to resistance. Natural selection makes the new resistant weed primary organism left, so companies are forced to change the herbicides. This is found all over nature, in diseases, insects, plants, and even animals.
Unfortunately, there is no regulating board that approves or rejects documentaries based on content. You can say pretty much anything you want, and no one is going to stop you. http://www.cracked.com/article_20585_6-famous-documentaries-that-were-shockingly-full-crap.html http://www.jacklacton.com/2007/05/top-10-false-misleading-documentaries.html If you believe everything you see on documentaries, yet don't believe peer reviewed research, I would say science education has officially failed in this country.
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. -- Jim Morrison Oh. Sorry. Stumbled in here from the waynetheinsaaaaane flashback thread. Back to the regularly scheduled debate: good stuff, actually.
Reality is we are not a farming society anymore nor should we be. 2. The automation of farming has made fruit, vegetables, and other natural foods available to more people and at more affordable prices. How is that bad? I will elaborate on the 1st paragraph by including a statement from your first point. "ensure a greater planet for those who come after us". I know i'll get hate from this statement but Human kind must moved towards a culture of veganism and organic farming practices otherwise there is no future. if you missed my post watch this documentary on environmentalism and our food. http://www.megashare.pw/watch-cowspiracy-the-sustainability-secret-online/#.VGprSTotDIU do you honestly think this world is doing better and will be even better in the future. deforestation, ocean dead zones, ocean life depletion of 90%, shortage of clean water, etc. really Bubonic? i really hate to say it but wake up. now that people don't grow their own food or are not in close connection with those who do the job of agriculture feeding the majority has gone into the hands of the few who now control what and how we eat. if it was not so, we would not be having this discussion/ debate on GMO's as far as freeing people up time to work other jobs? what jobs? 80% of the world lives on less than $10 a day and 3 billion of that (%50 of the worlds pop) lives on less than %2.50 a day. effectively the livelihood and sustenance of life for people on earth is now in the hands of few. going into your points: #1 just over a hundred years ago 1 out of 3 people farmed. now its 1 out of 60. now people work jobs for $$$ to buy shyt they don't need and that don't benefit them mentally or physically. in the case of doctors if the people couldn't pay for care with money they were given what that patients family produced i.e. crops, livestock, or services .do we really need more ER doctors? well the stats say no. most ER visits are from people with illnesses that are preventable by not choosing a healthier lifestyle. 25% are only seen for 15 minutes. less than 35% of visits are from injuries. More NASA scientists looking into outer space when we cant even fix the social, economical, and environmental problems here on Earth? do we need say more politicians? more Wall Street people? how bout more rock stars and movie stars and professional athletes and all the jobs behind these producing crap and facilitating the organizations? there are a lot of occupations this world doesn't need to ensure a greater planet for future generations. #2 automation of farming has helped with staple grains like wheat, soy, corn, etc. more than 50% of that goes to feed livestock. fruits and vegetable are still picked and packaged by hand usually by underpaid migrant workers in slave like conditions just to increase the profit of the few in control of such crops. #3 most of western society buys food from a supermarket. but to say it comes from one is an ignorant statement. no longer do people have a clue what goes into food production or has a relationship with a local farmer in essence making them a slave to big corp agri to provide food for them. #4 if they are than wheres the fruit of all the behind da scene labor? not just talking bout big wig super rich but the multi millionaires like in my area. the only farming I see around here is for example Bruce Springsteen and others putting a few cows and sheep on his property in order to get a tax break. your right about most humans at least in this country. they only care bout themselves and fukall to the needs of the community and the planet. well now that I spent precious time educating you on your misinformed world view, i'm taking a break from the internet to do things that actually count.
+1 metard, I do as well. Hey, Archy, where did you get those statistics from? Please cite where you get your information, because I would love to read those facts for myself. While I do agree with you that we are not treating our planet as we should, how does forcing everyone to go vegan solve that problem? Freakin' hippies.
I stopped reading your response after thus sentence. It is a slanderous sentence. Not only is it slander it is completely irrelevent especially in this context. I'll try to skim through the rest later.
Wow, you guys are nuttier than squirrel sh!t. This thread was meant to be a service to the folks on this forum. Like, hey, check this out, some crazy sh!t here, you should have a look, it may help you in some way. There, without a doubt, is f*cked up sh!t going on in the food industry. Food Inc. documents some of those things. I'm curious to know what part of Food Inc. was lies? If your forming detailed opinions about something you didn't even watch, what does that say about you? GMO's are created by man, not natural selection, to resist herbicides and pesticides, which are another creation by man. Herbicides and pesticides are toxic poisons, that were created by man to kill unwanted living organisms. Humans are living organisms. Common sense, if you have any, will tell you that repeated ingestion of these toxic poisons will have repercussions on the human body. Relying solely on peer reviewed scientific research and not thinking for yourself isn't exactly the wise choice in every instance. They don't tell people to stay out of the ocean, in California, for 3 days after it rains because the agricultural run off has too many vitamins in it; it's because of the poisonous toxins in it. In my book, f*cking with people, animals, and the planet, to get rich, is terribly wrong. There is a better way. I'm sorry some of you disagree. Having the, whatever, it is what it is, attitude is morbid. Again, this thread was meant to be a hook up for you cats. If you're hating on me for that, it's your problem. My conscience is clear.
