Freaking Fantastic

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by surfnut1018, Jun 3, 2010.

  1. surfnut1018

    surfnut1018 Well-Known Member

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    Mar 20, 2007
  2. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    horrific...

    For the Mid Atlantic/Northeast people, It didn't have the dye reaching north of the Outer Banks.
     

  3. surfnut1018

    surfnut1018 Well-Known Member

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    Mar 20, 2007
    yeah but I wonder what a nice sized storm would do if the oil was sitting off the mid atlantic coast...one with the right trajectory might bring storm surge up the chesapeake or onto the delmarva beaches I'd imagine....plus it's not just oil, the dispersant scares me. I don't want to grow a third arm or something from swimming in that junk...unbelievable really, it's just terrible.

    is there anything we can do to get ready now?
     
  4. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Peacock and her colleagues stress that the simulations are not a forecast because it is impossible to accurately predict the precise location of the oil weeks or months from now. Instead, the simulations provide an envelope of possible scenarios for the oil dispersal. The timing and course of the oil slick will be affected by regional weather conditions and the ever-changing state of the Gulf’s Loop Current—neither of which can be predicted more than a few days in advance. The dilution of the oil relative to the source will also be impacted by details such as bacterial degradation, which are not included in the simulations.
     
  5. surfnut1018

    surfnut1018 Well-Known Member

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    Mar 20, 2007
    unfortunately, it's hard to stay optimistic at this point

    poor florida
     
  6. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    It sucks but you never know. currents may change and keep it over open water. Probably just as well to get it onshore quickly where it's easier to clean up.
     
  7. surfnut1018

    surfnut1018 Well-Known Member

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    Mar 20, 2007
    yeah in all honest there is not much we can do but sit and wait....one thing I do know is that I'm going to get out in the water as much as possible while I still can
     
  8. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    The environmental hazard is my most significant concern, but if the oil does come onshore, I'd imagine there would be a big economic hit on the beach tourism.
     
  9. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    It would be in Fla for sure. I would think if it ever made it up to DelMarVa or NJ it would be diluted enough to have minimal impacts.
     
  10. surfnut1018

    surfnut1018 Well-Known Member

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    Mar 20, 2007
    yeah, if it does stay off the mid atlantic, beach towns north of the effected area may see a big jump though

    one thing for sure about all this is we will learn an awful lot about ocean currents
     
  11. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Even though it's not definite this will happen, it's still possible. This is really messed up.

    All these people are still for offshore drilling too. After the spill happened, they say it's not that bad and it's only a little bit of oil even though most of us knew that the amount of oil being spilled was far greater than we were being told. They say we still need offshore drilling because we are dependent on foreign oil. They actually want to build more rigs. Then, they say it's rare for a spill to happen and it's still not much oil that spilled to date. Now look where we are today. They are slowly turning against off shore drilling, but will still defend it. These people are clueless, brainwashed, morons.

    The statement they make about oil accidents being rare is a joke. Hey morons, it only takes one spill to ruin beaches and the ocean in that area for a lifetime! It all comes down to money including the dispersants used. They are salvaging the well for future profits and also profiting off using the dispersants. This is ridiculous and BP executives have to go to jail. They are so against imploding the well which was suggested 48 hours after the spill happened and this method is highly successful. Impodling a well will make it unusable and BP won't make any profits. It's always about money even when it comes to stopping an environment disaster. They always weigh money over everyone and everything else.
     
  12. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    If anything future drilling will be more safe since all the lessons learned will be applied to new rigs. Plus had this happened off our coast, it should have been much easier to contain since the depths aren't as great (no robots to fix it. use divers)
     
  13. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    I'm sure this statement has been said after past oils spills :(
     
  14. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    Such as?

    I'll give you a good example...Three Mile Island. After that accident, numerous safety protocols were put in place based on the lessons learned. How many accidents like that have happened since??? 0
     
  15. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    There have been numerous oil spills just not this large. As I said before, it only takes one. Any environmental disaster including plants which pollute drinking water also never learn their lesson. They didn't learn a thing after giving entire communities cancer. Money is the name of the game.

    Do you really think the oil companies will learn? They haven't learned anything about safety regulations in 30 years after the other large oil spill in the Gulf. It was still the blowout preventer that failed and they are even trying the exact same solutions now for capping the well. You really need to get your head out of big oil's ass. Lobbyists for big oil run the show, not the government. They think they own that area of ocean now. They will give more money to governement to prevent futher regulations and inspections. They use a very simple caculcation which is similiar to the insurance industry. If new equipment from safety regulations and inspections cost more than cleaning a spill up every 20 years, then they will give money to Washington to not impose harsher safety regulations and then we can all expect to see another oil spill.
     
  16. jwj72

    jwj72 Active Member

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    Apr 2, 2007
    I can agree that this is a bad thing, but what are the alternatives? There are always going to be accidents and things that happen in life. What other solutions than drilling do we have right now? I see these BP boycotts and I can understand the sentiment to a point, but what does BP have to gain by this happening? It's definitely not helping them in any way. Not to mention that all of their stations are privately owned, so the boycott isn't hurting the company much if at all. Plus, if they stop making money or go bankrupt, they won't be able to pay reparations, fines, etc. I really think we need real world ideas on dealing with situations like this, not knee-jerk reactions and finger pointing. There will be plenty of time for determining criminal guilt after the fact if there is any. Don't forget that industries such as off shore drilling are made up of a lot of "little people" just trying to make their way in life, not all CEOs getting rich by screwing everyone else (as seems to be the popular notion these days).
     
  17. surfnut1018

    surfnut1018 Well-Known Member

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    Mar 20, 2007
    They stopped building nuclear power plants after 3 mile island....that kinda helps keep the accidents down...plus drilling 2 or 3 miles underwater is more like operating in space. We don't even have a clue what's down there. We're killing an ecosystem we know nothing about
     
  18. bennysgohome

    bennysgohome Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2009
    Here's a solution. Solar Power. I have it installed on my house and it generates all my electricity. I have no electric bill and it will pay itself off in another 4 years. I also had someone convert my car engine to electric. I recharge my car using my house power. So my car is running on solar too.

    Offshore drilling is not necessary regardless if we use solar power or not. It only supplies a small percentage of oil and the cons outway the pros. Solar will help us move away from oil almost completely.

    People do need cars for commuting to work, but they use them for everything. Get off your fat ass and ride a bike sometimes.
     
  19. Recycled Surfer

    Recycled Surfer Well-Known Member

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    Jan 1, 2010
    I'm interested in solar power - what is the Square Foot of your house ? I know people who use solar power but it is in no way their primary electrical source. Also, how was your car engine converted to electric and what was the cost ? If you are generating all your own power you are far ahead of most solar power users.
     
  20. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Well-Known Member

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    Nov 30, 2007
    A little conservation would go a long way. We don't really have to drive around in 6,000 lb. trucks. We don't have to drive 65 mph on the interstates. We don't have to live in 3,000 sq. foot McMansions. This country has taken wasting energy to new highs over the past 20 years or so. The lessons learned during the Arab Oil Embargo of 1974 have long been forgotten, and it's time we learned to conserve again.