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Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by sonfollowerssurf, Feb 8, 2013.
Agreed, they're already on the path to salvation.
Salvation= God's free gift of eternal life and forgiveness for sin which I may have by believing that the Lord Jesus died for me and rose again. When I believe in Christ, I am saved from the penalty of sin. As I grow in the Lord, He continues to free me gradually from the power of sin. Someday I will be saved from the presence of sin.
If you knew anything about me and what I ride, you wouldn't have posted this non-sense. I see you frequent this place, 3 posts since 2011, you're informed.
good luck with that
Salvation as defined by you Wayne, and the conceptual framework your world is structured around. Sin is another cultural construct which can be relative to the individual. And while we're on the subject, the concept of original sin is the biggest crock of sh*t IMO. Something I always grappled with(I was raised Catholic, my mom just wanted me to get confirmed and then left the choice up to me), but how you you tell people that they're born guilty and without baptism will be damned for eternity. Christianity as a whole appeals to the dispossesed and oppressed, but I mean come on, it's such a transparent selling point. Join us and get baptized or you're going to hell. And for the record, I mean no disrespect to anybody's personal beliefs, I just find theological discussion interesting. Sh*t, I even talk to the Jehovas in my neighborhood.
Someone is a little self rightous. Why go to church when I can go to this forum?
Let's see, you're calling me....liberal a**hat....a**holes...d***weed....you may be headed for the rarified infarction status, watercress. What are you, 12?
Make your way over to the hater thread as started by another self-righteous bible-thumper, Little Lord Fauntleroy himself, aka clemmy, and there you can go bonkers all you wish.
I'm not liberal.
Where am I being negative?
Having the freedom from religious worship/belief is positive thing. How much time, energy and money is wasted trying to support the religious institutions of the world? Couldn't we put those resources to better use instead of trying to buy our way into "eternal salvation"?
The sad fact is we are organic lifeforms who die and decompose like anything else.
When you come to terms with that, every second seems more precious then the last.
"The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there’s little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides."
- Carl Sagan
Sure we're organic life forms that die and decompose, but that says nothing about what may or may not happen after. The more we learn about the planet and universe, the more complex we realize it is. Putting the Sagans and Dawkins types aside, I'm sure there are plenty of scientists aren't as quick to say when you're dead it's over and that's eat. Eat some psilocybin dude.
Yea, 'shrooms are cool. Definitely helps you wrap your mind around abstract ideas. Here are a few:
Try accepting "nothingness" as a possibility. I feel as humans we always presume there is "something" that had to come before, or "something" that happens after. Could it be possible that the universe is just infinitely old? Isn't it likely the universe is infinitely old?
Anyway, surfing should be exempt from religion. And nobody should be trying to get more people into surfing. Could we user religion to lure more people out of the water? That would be great!
I fully condone this message. Especially about luring people out of the water. Riding waves is either for godless heathens or polytheistic earth/ocean worshipping savages. Except for capecodcdog, he's the man.
Except that the universe isnt infinitely old or large.
Depending on which theory/model you subscribe to. Too much information is unknown to us currently to be making finite statements about the universe, or mulitverse, depending on your view.
Im a big fan of m-theory and the ekpyrotic universe model but the is a large amount of evidence that supports the age of the current universe.
Thanks Seldom. It's good to know I have a place in the line up.
I was actually considering jumping in the fray, but I'm concerned my post could be as lengthy as a Pauline epistle.. but, what the heck, here's an abbreviated version of whats on my mind..
Perhaps I'll throw out a few questions to ponder:
1. What is the Gospel (or Good News)? Why is it Good News?
2. Is there a Biblical mandate for it to be proclaimed? If so, what does this entail? What does this not entail? In other words, what means should be used to communicate it, and what means should not? Note: I realize a "Biblical Mandate" only applies to those who believe. It also makes sense that any message needs to be communicated in some fashion.
One other thought. The New Testament suggests that the Gospel is an offense. Why is this so? I have thoughts on this: It proclaims there is a God, which forces divine accountability upon us, it proclaims man as failing short of the divine standard, and unable to rectify this situation by his own means, and thus put in us in position to depend on "foreign aid", which ruffles our pride. There are probably other reasons.
The big problem, which I regret is when Christians themselves become the offense and stumbling block. The message and faith itself is difficult enough, without hypocrisy in the way. It grieves me when I hear stories like what DPSUP experienced, which certainly would leave a bad taste in anyone's mouth. Which is quite unfortunate.
When people have such a negative experience, how then can they possibly "Taste and see that the Lord is good"?
Peace, Bro's & I hope everyone gets a lil' swell..
Remember this...... the church is not the building, it is the people that gather to talk about Gods Word.
church= a group of Christians who come together regularly to worship, to learn, to serve God and others,and to pray for each other and help meet each others needs.
I've been a big fan of cyclical theories since reading about Einstein's early ideas on oscillating universe theory back in high school.
More recent cyclical theories being put forth based on the foundations of the ekpyrotic scenario seem to support infinite cyclical expansion and contraction of the "current" universe.
We can estimate the age of the "current" universe as time since the last cyclical expansion event.
However when defining the universe as everything that ever existed, exists or will exist, we cannot know the true age of the universe since cyclical theory suggests that the universal cycle is self sustaining and continues on into the future and past indefinitely. Although to be fair, the universal cycle prior to the current one may not have had the same dimensional attributes as our current universal state and thus cannot be measured as time.
All of this is theory, and is sure to ruin the mood any dinner party faster than someone who takes a dump in the living room.
We should start a new thread without the 24 pages of christian surfboard bribery talk.
Got a better definition for you and your methods.
Schil= Feeble minded, sheep-like person that tries too hard to sound important, but fails every time. Often found playing internet games from his parents basement, where he fantasizes about other men in homosexual acts, not realising these fantasies are a manifestation of his own suppressed desires.
i dont care to know **** about you, i know you ride a sup and that says alot lol and from the looks of things you prob spend more time on here trying to start **** then you spend in the water lol quit tryin to act like you dont ride a paddle board, its a stand up one at that lol you should punch yourself in the face for me every time you bring that board out just to remind you how much of an assclown you are. you should go find a river to paddle around in instead of trying to bash people over the internet too u fackin troll.
What's wrong with riding a paddleboard? This guy seems to be ok with it: