Gary Johnson Town Hall

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by ClemsonSurf, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Fuk that place. My commute will be 20 min quicker now that summers over.
     
  2. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    I was here, and it wasn't a bunch of millionaires, it was the city of Long Branch.
    Then the city of Long Branch sold the whole area (3 parts) to the highest bidder.
    A town official actually went to jail over taking bribes to grant construction contracts.
     

  3. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Also i'd like to add that before the ED, you wouldn't dare walk the boardwalk along there after dark. I know numerous people who have been mugged there before the redevelopment.
    While i don't like what has happened to Long Branch, it is much safer.
     
  4. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Sounds like some backdoor "eminent domain" takeover of prized real estate inhabited by a low rent population for the purpose of "Redistricting" the area to create more revenue.

    Normally I'd agree with this, up until the part where the crooked politicians find a way to scam some kickbacks and "tribute".

    BTW, was the crooked guy a Repub or Dem?

    Awww, don't answer that. Forget I even asked.

    EDIT: Just figured out what "ED" means, after I posted. So basically I just posted exactly what you guys were talking about, like Captain Obvious. Great.

    I think I'm gonna have to change my current strain lol
     
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  5. Manik

    Manik Well-Known Member

    833
    Dec 25, 2015
    You have to be leaning in some direction Barry, who, o wise one, could that be? I can't see you voting green party.
     
  6. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Yeah it's pretty lame. The city has failed miserably. There are still large portions of the EdDo area that have gone undeveloped. One area is totally blighted with vacant boarded up buildings.
    In fact very few if any locals go to Pier Village. Too expensive and not very 'family' oriented.
    A bunch of sh!tty overpriced restaurants and clothing stores. Nothing for the kids. Nothing.
    The Mayor, of 7 terms, wants nothing more than to push out the locals to make way for the rich. Property taxes have skyrocketed since Pier Village and Beach Front North.
    A beach bed at the Avenue is something like $1500 for the day.
    I grew up here, and the 4 lane highway that runs from Bath Ave to North End wasn't built until 1983. Another eminent domain heist. That was Monmouth Co. though, not LB.
    Still a ghost town in the winter, and the waves are good, but once all my ducks are in order, i'm fukin outta here.
     
  7. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Oh yeah, the Mayor is a non-partisan Jew Lawyer. And the city official was an Italian with mob ties.
     
  8. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I walk it every night with my wife and kid... So I guess I like it then.

    But you're right. The place itself sucks not a single good store or restaurant.
     
  9. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Oh OK, so the whole schlemiel was cooked up by Jews and Wops.

    Glad to hear that no Micks, Spics, Slopes or Camel Jockeys were involved or it would've gotten ugly.

    I avoided Blacks because that would be racist.
     
  10. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    Hhahaha, yeah.
    I'm not being racist, just the details of the perps.
    Some stereotypes hold true, and if you know these people personally (i do somewhat), you would know they fit the bill.
     
  11. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY is a stereotype, even white toothless meth addicted inbreeding trailer trash crackers.

    You're only a racist when you stereotype non-white minorities. You should know that by now.
     
  12. ibc

    ibc Well-Known Member

    Aug 3, 2014
    How'd I miss this earlier?

    LMFAO
     
  13. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Ok Arch, I'll chill. We'll prob just have to agree to disagree, but at least you're paying attention.

    Sounds to me like we both want the same thing, a true libertarian, right? Socially liberal (true freedom for all), small government, and fiscally conservative, correct?

    DC takes it's orders from Wall St. Putting a Wall St. billionaire in charge who's said he's going to pack his cabinet with the who's who of the last meltdown\bailout ain't gonna fix it. All it's doing is cutting out the middleman. So instead of the death by a thousand pinpricks from Hillary it's a roller coaster right off the cliff. Instead of a street con shell game, it's a straight up burglary.

    Hillary is a career politician who's left a trail of wreckage and dead bodies, both literal and figurative. Trump is a career con man who's left a trail of bankruptcy, failed businesses, and empty bank accounts of his investors. Both will stop at nothing to further their own power and ego. Neither one cares if the world burns to the ground as long as they get to be the one that stands on the ashes as the lord and master. Git out the fiddle, Rome is burning.

    GJ ain't perfect by any means. I don't agree with the TPP or his VPs comments on the 2nd, but he's calling for term limits and that's something you will never hear from any Dempublican or Republicrat.

    Agree that Drumpf is destroying the GOP and that's why they tried to shut him out.

    Let's face it, all our arguing ain't gonna matter, Billary is going to win, and the Dems are gonna make significant gains in both houses.

    Maybe after 4 years of Dempublican hell we'll get lucky and someone will come along and wreck the Demwit party. Seeing both parties wiped out and a fresh start might actually bring some real hope and change.

    But I'm a cynical old bastard, so I doubt it.

    Fock it....go surf.
     
  14. archy 2.0

    archy 2.0 Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2012
    ,

    Ok Tlokein, gotcha.
    But you should get some of your facts straight.
    Trump is not a 'Wall Street' billionaire. In fact Wall Street execs are worried about a Trump presidency.
    While the Don has used Wall Street to finance some of his businesses, he has accepted $0 from Wall St. campain contributions.
    In fact Kermit Johnson has been quoted numerous times that Wall St. Bankers have committed no crimes worthy of prosecution. This is fuking hilarious considering many top banks have been caught laundering money for drug cartels and terrorisit organizations.
    Considering Trump owns over 500 successful companies, 4 bankruptcies give him an overall 99%+ success rate.
    Face the facts, Kermit is an insider. His policies have left New Mexico in a large debt. Term limits worm limits.
    He's anti-Libertarian on the big issues!
    And to let you know again, Miss Piggery is elected, there will be no open free elections next term.
    A vote for Kermit is a vote for Piggy. A vote for Kermit is a vote for Dictatorship.
     
  15. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Having lived in New Mexico for a decade and in West Texas for another, I can safely say that Gary Johnson was not responsible for much, if any, debt owed by the State.

    That would fall squarely in the crooked lap of Democratic former Governor Bill Richardson, easily one of the most corrupt politicians to ever hold office in that particular state.

    Richardson is a major Clinton crony, and IIRC was considered for appointment for a very sensitive and high profile Cabinet position until the confirmation process started dragging some very serious skeletons from his closet...some involving NM, others involving the Clinton's on an international scale. I met him in person once in Las Cruces while he was campaigning. He's charming, slick oily scum.

    Any debt incurred by NM has been practically eliminated by the current Gov, Susana Martinez...a former Dem turned Repub and the former DA of Dona Ana County. I've had the pleasure of working with her and her husband Chuck, who was the county Undersheriff. She is charming, super intelligent and would make an excellent Presidential candidate.
     
  16. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    KR - since you are a former resident of NM, I would love to hear your thoughts on GJ and your experience with him as gov of NM.
     
  17. nopantsLance

    nopantsLance Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2016
    If you're not going to vote for Trump there is only one other option

    Monica-2016.jpg
     
  18. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    TBH, I'd never really thought about him much until recently. His terms in office are what I would call "solid but unspectacular", much like his mannerisms and policies.

    Actually, that description fits perfectly the type of candidate we need right now at this point in time, doesn't it? Somebody who can right the ship quietly and competently, without making a bunch of useless waves.

    Pretty sure the only reason he eventually lost the governorship was due to running against a candidate that had a sheer force of personality and was strongly entrenched with the Clinton administration. Being a native Spanish speaker helped, as speaking Spanish and being "guapo" or "chula" is inherently more important than actual credentials in NM.

    I do recall a very stiff push by GJ to create some damn voucher system for the NM schools because they historically perform so poorly, even after he tried several approaches to rectify the situation...even radically increasing the education budget to no avail.

    Come to think of it, the whole school voucher thing might have been part of his undoing. IIRC, Bush was pushing the same thing nationwide. It was pretty unpopular, and I disliked it as well. Just too damn "republican ", if you will. I had a kid in grade school at that time.

    But as far as I know, this guy has no real skeletons in his closet...no dead bodies, no stained dresses, no bankruptcies. Just quiet, solid and steady.

    One more thing: pretty sure he spent his own money on his initial campaign. What kind of "insider" does that?
     
  19. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    That's not true. He started out not accepting Wall St dough, but That is not the case anymore. Anthony Scaramucci joined the Trump Finance comittee in May and has raised millions from Wall St.
     
  20. kidde rocque

    kidde rocque Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    nynj, I very highly value your opinions and your posts are always top notch.

    I also highly dislike Trump, almost on the same level as The Hildebeast.

    With that being said, can you direct us to your source or a link that confirms this statement?

    If your statement is indeed true, then let's do away with the "Wall Street Money" innuendo once and for all.

    EDIT: I could do the research myself, but I'm lazy and ready to try out my newest strain right now lol
     
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