Glamorous?

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by Guod, Jan 13, 2014.

  1. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    I lost my best friend to heroin. There is nothing cool about it, I promise.

    The opiate based pills that so many people gobble these days are the same thing. Pill users like to kid themselves about that.

    Information about opiate use and addiction isn't top secret. I'll never understand why a person would choose to make a perilous left turn down Opiate Way, knowing it's a bad street.

    http://www.oceancountysignal.com/20...in-responsible-least-two-ocean-county-deaths/
     
  2. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Agreed on the perils. And well-said, D. But where is this thread coming from...?

    Just wondering if I missed something other than MIS going Defcon8 on Billy, with Spicoli attempting to referee.
     

  3. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    Oh, not there really. Oops. The word came from there I guess. I heard the sirens yesterday in Seaside for one of the deaths and someone just sent me the link. I just wanted to share this link and a few thoughts on dope. This is a bad batch and I don't like when people die. Not spreading potentially life saving information of this nature seems evil. Admittedly, I'm not cool with glorifying opiates in any way. Strange, I know.

    http://www.nj.com/ocean/index.ssf/2..._ocean_county_are_an_emergency_situation.html
     
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  4. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    Good luck finding affordable rehab. The only thing that saved the junkies in my family was being tossed in the hoosgow for a few months. What a coincidence that there's another conflict in Asia and another heroin out break in Yoo Ess. Mission Accomplished.
     
  5. capecodcdog

    capecodcdog Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2012
    Mitigating this issue can be tricky. I believe "loving the sinner, hating the sin" is a best, yet challenging approach. With addicts it is dicey & requires wisdom & discernment, as they are enslaved to a cruel master.

    BTW, well said Doug. Sorry about the loss of your friend.
     
  6. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    "The dealer is a man with a lot of grass in his hand, but the Pusher is a monster...God damn the Pusher man!" That goes out to all those M.D.s out there giving out scrips of Oxys. They are worse than the street thugs. Sorry for your loss Doug.
     
  7. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    Well said yourself! Thanks for the positive vibes guys.

    Josh was a legend the day I met him. My friends Kieth, Eric, and myself were in the locker room after gym carrying on like we always did when the new kid came busting through us, flipped over onto his back, held a lighter to his a$$, and out came a big blue flame. We loved it of coarse, and he invited us to his house after school that day. We went. He quickly became my main homie until we lost him at 27. He had a knack for reciting great stories in our lives that I didn't remember, so when we lost him, a chunk of these crazy/funny stories went with him.

    I love you and I miss you Josh. I hope we can still have a beer in heaven, whatever or wherever that may be.
     
  8. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    Someone, elsewhere, insinuated I was glamorizing heroin. At that time I wasn't. Do I make some off-hand, pro-drug statements? Yeah, I do. But I actually warn people on here who got problems, and even extend a hand to anyone who wants to listen. And I have also exposed my life, including my downfall from drugs, so if anyone thinks that's glamorous, well that's on them.

    Actually most people on here glamorize drugs. Alcohol is praised as the almighty on here. Alcohol kills more people than any other illegal drug....combined. It creates arrogant, violent douche bags like no other drug. Behind every domestic disturbance is a case of bud and a bottle of Jack.

    And people get involved in opiates because they think that trying it once isn't going to hurt them. But, they dig the feeling, and continue using. I'm not going to sugarcoat this: opiates(in the beginning) might quite possibly be the best feeling on this planet. That's why people continue to use when they know what lies ahead. Then EVERYBODY hits a point where the stuff doesn't get them high anymore.

    And no, contrary to media propaganda not everyone who tries opiates becomes addicted. And there are people who can maintain recreational use, as they don't have the brain wiring that turns others into fiends.

    And the North East doesn't get dope from Asia. It comes from South America.
     
  9. World B Free

    World B Free Well-Known Member

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    Feb 7, 2013
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  10. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    what i dont get is why im always seeing doctors getting arrested for writing bogus scripts,but nobody ever goes after the pharmacutical companies that make the shyt!!!!!it pisses me off.the shyt doesnt help anyone.i have back and kneee problems,and was on the blue skidoos for 4years,all it does is alter the mind,then after 2 hours your sick from withdrawel.i kicked cold turkey without any help,it was hell but il take a week of feeling like death than more years of feeling fine then feeling sick.

    most people get into dope because the pills no longer due it,and its too expensive.20bucks a pill when u can get half a bundle for 20 bucks.my family has a long history with abusing dope,and even tho i was on the pills,which were legit signed by a real dr,no bs,i never would ever try the heron.my brother shot up for years,then got locked up for armed robbery and did 8yrs,and it saved his life.sometimes prison is the only option.i know many who went to rehab multiple times,then overdose and die 2 months out of rehab.my buddy left his best friend to die when he started oding.idk why he aint in jail,but im not the prosecutor.my current brother in law is a former pillhead now turned into a full blown junkie,who shoots up dope instead of sniffing pills.i tell his dad everyday,one of these days its going to be the court house or the morgue,but he dont care.hes 37 so he can make his own decisions.
    i just dont see why they keep producing this shyt in the labs,the oxys.doctors are afraid to even prescribe it nowadays,so why keep manufacturing it.my dr cut me off due to recent publishings and threats about getting locked up for prescribing to someone who dies.i guess my dr thought i was going to die or something.i had just started a new job,and i lost that job cus i was out of work for 2 weeks sick,my 2nd week of work.so yea i can say my dr did a lot of good.he didnt give me any suboxone or anything like that,he just gave me 1 last script and said have a nice day.and most regular people who do have a drug problem,that would be the time to start going down to asbury to cop some dope.not me tho..and yes dope doesnt grow in america.

    and pjb i have to disagree with u for once,saying some people can maintain recreational use.theres the feinds that can support their habit by working a regular job and fitting in like a regular joe,then u have your feinds who have to steal for their next fix.no,people dont do dope or a pill once and get addicted,but if u take it more than 3 days in a row,u will feel withdrawl for the next 2 days.theres no such thing as an in between dope feind.its a cycle,ur either high or your sick.being normal means being high,sick is when your not high.its a very dangerous phase.
     
  11. cepriano

    cepriano Well-Known Member

    Apr 20, 2012
    heres a few fun facts for those who want to try painkillers.when i was kicking,i was searching every where online for a home remedy or something that could help.i dont remember what it is,but i remember reading when u take any opiod for a long time,the brain stops producing something that your body needs,and when your sick,thats the brain trying to produce the thing for your body,dont remember something complicated.also,thinking about smoking,drinking,eating,surfing,etc.u cant do any of that until a opiod is in your system.i missed a lot of great swells over the past few years.drinking and pks are extremely dangerous and thats how a lot of people die.taking a pk with xanax will kill you too,another recipe for disaster.it also makes u constipated and bloated.

    i lost 3 friends over the years from ods,could be a lot more but i try not to hang around junkies.just people who i grew up with a spent everyday with until they started using.i hate to say it,but i dont really feel sad for them.my 1 buddy was the greatest kindest dude in the world,hed give u the shirt off his back,but once he upgraded to the needle,he became a different person and started breaking into houses and stuff.thats not how i want to remember my friend.and my other buddy,who was the dead kids best friend,who was the one who introduced him to the needle,left him to die in his own house.the dead kid started foaming out the mouth,the other kid jumped out the window and ran.his sister came into his room to tell him dinner time,when they found him.he wasnt dead yet,just brain dead so they had him on life support.i remember everyone was mad i didnt go see him before he died,but i figured phucks the point?thats not how i want to remember my buddy,and i left it at that.also i had a buddy who used to say to me dont bail on me if i start odin.like this dude,he was a big meathead,someone who could bench 600lbs,no joke,someone who u might call a recreational user,but he was a junkie like the rest of him.well this dude was huge,and 3-4 bags wouldnt take the edge off.the dude would shoot 10-15 bags at a time.one day he did od,but his girlfriend saved him.he used to tell me if he starts going out,just start slapping and punching him,and id say dont do that shyt around me,i want nothing to do with it.being where i grew up,everyone was either a drug addict,drug dealer,or a robber.there were no good guys.i left the city life and came down to the shore
     
  12. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    I used to know a bunch people who use cocaine recreationally........once a week.......one or two times a month. I knew them...I saw them......they weren't hitting Hartsville & Cambria everyday.

    I also knew people who would take a few pills here and there. I even knew some people who would sniff a bag of dope once in a while, and they didn't end up at 9th & Indiana every day.
     
  13. Special Whale Glue

    Special Whale Glue Well-Known Member

    Oct 8, 2011
    I agree 100%

    Having a beer in heaven was a direct reference to a song our friend Jeff Wood, of Shat wrote when Josh died. The song was about having a beer at the bar in heaven and enjoying some ladies with our beloved friend Josh. A beer Billy, as in one nostalgic beer.

    Personally, I don't drink much and advise others to keep alcohol use to a minimum. I'm no saint and I've partied plenty btw.

    Picking on my comment about having a beer with my dead friend is pretty low and doesn't reflect your "landslide" member of the year status.

    Here is the song I referenced fart hole:
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_HP0GYrIr-Y&desktop_uri=/watch?v=_HP0GYrIr-Y
     
  14. CBSCREWBY

    CBSCREWBY Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2012
    Hey Doug, Sorry for your loss. I 'm gonna defend PJB here for a sec, although God knows he doesn't need it. I don't think that the alcohol praise line was was a shot at you and your buddy. We do, me included, sing the praise of alcohol on this sight quite often. Again sorry, and I'm sure you were a good friend.
     
  15. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    "I seen a lotta people walkin' round with tombstones in their eyes."
    -- Steppenwolf

    One of the best lines ever. If a song about death from drugs can be 'good' then The Pusher by Steppenwolf is that.
     
  16. ocsurf32

    ocsurf32 Well-Known Member

    390
    Jul 22, 2012
    Subs . . Loperamide.. not that hard to kick unless you didn't give a f@ck and got in way too deep. And no using 3 days in a row won't cause withdrawal for 2 days. .everyone is different. My dog does 40 60 mg oxy a day for 3 years with occasional stoppage. Feels bad for 1-3 days with mild symptoms and has decreased dose age over the years so not everyone will become a feen
     
  17. capecodcdog

    capecodcdog Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2012
  18. Paddington Jetty Bear

    Paddington Jetty Bear Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2013
    I wasn't picking on alcohol because of you mentioning having a beer in the afterlife.

    If you must know, I started my post before seeing that line(I tend to skim a lot of these posts on here)

    I did it because there's this consensus that alcohol isn't a drug in this society. And now there's a rule that we can't talk aboot dope because YOU know someone who died from it. But other drugs on here are glamorized......I got to get the official SWELLINFO RULE BOOK


    Hey, I'm going to attack Brewengineer because I know people who have died from alcohol.....

    Dude, you get bent aboot every f'ing thing I say, and most of the time I'm not even getting snarky with you.

    And I'm going to say another thing that might not be too popular. Just because someone knows somebody who died from something doesn't mean the rest of the world has to creep around the subject on eggshells and not talk aboot it. So, we have to speak respectfully aboot dope now because you know someone who died from? I know you Ocean County types are relatively new to this game in such epidemic levels.

    I know people who have been shot. I don't tell Pumpmaster what to say aboot guns. I hassle gun owners becaue it's fun, but I don't tell them how speak.

    Fart hole? You guys love the toilet humor, huh?

    Ahhh, I'll tell you, EVERY F'ING DAY. All you people do is f'ing b!tch and moan and sh!t. Snarky, Snarky, Snarky......Some think they control what people should post on here. Some tell people what's ok and not ok to speak of.....

    Ahh I just love how important things are when it happens to them. If it didn't happen to them, then it would be a non-issue. Human beings - gotta love them.
     
  19. babybabygrand

    babybabygrand Well-Known Member

    652
    Nov 1, 2012
    Doug I am sorry for your loss. All we can do is educate people that happiness isn't something you can buy, smoke, inject, or guzzle down. No matter how many times we hear otherwise from the ad agencies that represent Big pharma/tobacco/alcohol/gambling/softdrinks/sugar. stay strong and keep spreading the word!
     
  20. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    [video=youtube;jMvFevOywgQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMvFevOywgQ[/video]