Great White population surge

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by ATANTICOO, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Thanks DPSUP. Saw a special on dems Humbolt Squid, creepy critter. Speaking of Humbolt, props to Humbolt County for not extending their contract w/ USDA Wildlife Services(see yukon men thread). Leety your post made me think of this:

    “When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to the rest of the world.”
    ― John Muir

    Sorry with all the quotes today fellers, saw some sick rock n' roll last night so I'm all nostalgic.
     
  2. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012

  3. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    It's funny because other "studies" show the exact opposite. Some say the Pacific White population has rebounded recently and some don't. Just shows how hard they are to study.
    One thing to remember is that they don't reproduce until they are approx 15 years old. So if juvenile whites are doing well we will see much healthier species in a few years...

    One thing I do call BS on is how they say Whites are SO important to the ecosystem. There's just not enough of them out there to make a big difference.
    Not saying we should eliminate them or anything, because we shouldn't. Just saying they exaggerate
     
  4. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Nynj I hear you, and paulie that is f'n creepy, I couldn't live in the sub or full on tropics. Tablets kinda blow
     
  5. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Yeah, I think it's easy to write a report on either side and use numbers to your advantage. Much like the shark attack #'s that include 350 million people just in our neck of the woods that will never touch the ocean...

    But one this about the Pacific that I have never heard a dispute about, is that in 30 years, White shark populations around central CA (The Red Triangle) have grown 8 times over. People could blame more advanced tagging procedures and tracking measures, but it is an indisputable that the population in the North Pacific has increased almost 10 fold.

    Ohh well. At this point, this is not new news, its just well documented and as the internet continues to dominate media, these stories and reports just circulate much faster and more often.
     
  6. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Yeah, It's a little harder for me to judge since I was on the west coast for 10 years, with basically NO insects. A few spiders, but literally no other pests. But I did spend 20 years of my life in Maryland, and I feel like there were just as many pests, big ones, if not more. Some are a little different down here, but in the woods in MD, there were all kinds of snakes, spiders, "large cats"... You name it. So, it's not bad, just different.

    Scariest spiders I have seen was in Maui. Wifey and I were staying in a beach bungalow deal. Had A/C but there were solid inch gaps in places around the floor boards and frame work. No big deal, weather is always perfect... Anyway, the wife and I have about 4 days left there, and she looks over on the wall and sees a spider that is probably as big around as a beer coaster. At least 4-5 inches from end to end. It looked dark brownish on the wall. I walked over with a shoe in hand as the wifey stood on a chair, in typical wife fashion, screaming, get it, get it. I get closer and the thing jets down the wall and onto the floor, and like a cameleon, this thing took the color of the light tan carpet and just disappeared in it. I looked at the wife and she looked at me, and I was like, WTF was that. We are not big spider people, so the last 4 days we were there, we had a creeped out feeling in the place. The thing was HUGE and just adapted to whatever color it was on immediately. Maybe it was just clear, and appeared to have color based on where it was, but it was basically a HUGE almost invisible spider. I was like WTF was that.

    Saw a lizard do the same thing at the Tiki Bar, but that was cool.
     
  7. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    F that noise dude! Just something about spiders that's extra creepy.
     
  8. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    +1 Spiders can kiss my a$$!
     
  9. Kahuna Kai

    Kahuna Kai Well-Known Member

    Dec 13, 2010
    I think I may have seen one last Sunday. Whatever it was, I was paddling like the road runner to gtfo of there.
     
  10. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    Where you at? Down in JAX?
     
  11. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Dude, it mighta been Mary Lee! She's been spotted off the coast of Jax before, that's one fish i'd give priority to and get the hell outta dodge
     
  12. zach619

    zach619 Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2009
    She "apparently" birthed her pup almost on my doorstep a couple weeks ago. She was pinged IN the port royal sound, IN MY SHARK FISHING HOLE. It is a popular spot for all species of sharks, but I already said this earlier in this thread, but for 30-40 years, it has been known that Tigers and Whites love the Intracoastal waterways in HHI and Charleston. It has also been known that it is primarily for "birthing"... So, at least they say, they are in a pretty non-aggressive state when they come in really close, because they are fat, happy, pop out a baby and that is when they swim back up north.

    Don't know how true it is, but I had this discussion with a local marine biologist and he said that this has been common knowledge for many, many decades. And there is usually no incidents while fishing or in recreational settings.

    He also said that from Buxton to JAX is the most popular breeding and birthing grounds in the entire Atlantic for all sharks. They roam waters near and far, but their appetites usually come into play elsewhere. At least to date.
     
  13. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Interesting stuff, they are truly fascinating, just glad nobody has gotten pinched by her or others like her recently, at least not on this coast. Been mostly smallish sharks doing a little nibbling, one bite from her and it's over!
     
  14. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
     
  15. metard

    metard Well-Known Member

    Mar 11, 2014
    fishing hole, butt hole......whatever