Gubmit Admits Vaccines Cause Autism

#9/12 nulka

 

Yeah man, trying to get it in before my shoulders and knees give out lol

 

Definitely agree there. I think vaccines are needed but we should not be giving them to infants. Vaccines shouldn't be given until the toddler stage at a minimum. Some of those chemicals are needed in the vaccine but I always wonder how an infants undeveloped organs can really filter out these harsh chemicals.

 

Now if society didn't have a herd mentality, statistics wouldn't be as accurate right? To take a sample of 100 and assume it represents the whole of society is saying that we are not individuals but more of a herd mentality, or are there other things at play?

 

Honestly not sure if it's a herd mentality or not. Never really thought of it in those terms, was more interested in the process and the math behind it.

A sample of 100 is a very poor representation is statistical modeling. You end up with a huge +/- variance to the point where it becomes meaningless. Now when you get in the tens or hundreds of thousands, it becomes more accurate to the point of being useful.

I'll have to ponder the part about the herd mentality; that's an interesting question.

 

No problem man, hope you enjoy it.

 

stanky,

I can see how some f'd up mfg process could introduce problems into a vax, and agree that should not be glossed over. If anyone has any real, credible, non-biased data on this I'll consider it with an open mind.

This is a far cry though from what I see from typical anti-vax crowd. I see a lot of hysteria and fear mongering and calls to stop all vaccinations, which is absurd to me.

 

herd mos def

 

I think questioning the status qua is healthy too. I believe there will always be flaws in the "discovery" process (not excluding the capitalism aspect of the vaccine market).

I have to believe that in general, vaccines (and medical advancement in general) have played a large part in the human population growth. The black plague not withstanding, humans have been pretty fortunate to withstand the risk of experiencing a major epidemic.

I think the biggest risk to our civilization is not known yet...some super virus or cancer that will do some serious damage to the population.

With that said, as there is disagreement on this issue on this board, I believe this discussion will evolve into a major conflict in society as central gov't tries to "require" vaccines.

 

lolz. I herd mos def too. Guess we should start working on our harmonies.

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(I'm usually an off-key E flat...which is why I play guitar and don't sing.)

 

Worude is Bourne

#9/12

 

Well the way I look at it is...

What I know: 1)Vaccines work. I don't have to worry about polio, etc...

What I don't know: 2) If there are complications\issues from vaccines.

IF above is true...3) I don't know what complications, issues, frequency, risk, etc.

So in the meantime, I'll stick with what I know. Now if someone can provide real data\evidence on 2 and then 3, I'll listen. Until that time, I'm sticking with #1, as I I'd rather take the risk of possibly getting a bad vax than getting one of those nasty diseases.

 

I agree- and if it's one thing I don't want to see is the reamergence of polio or some other disease and see all our kids get sick... That's why vaccines started on the first place.

And to add- I didn't read all the pages of this thread due to time- but to add my .02$: it's very obvious that many of you have never been in a pharma lab. I spend everyday traveling from lab to lab and I can tell you that many of the big pharma (that you hate) are the only ones that I would feel safe taking meds from. These environments are highly regulated- meaning everything is recorded/checked and double checked ect - plus all the instruments they use in the labs are newer, up to date and calibrated/ qualified to manufacture spect. If there is a failure in test equipment -the have to look back at the history of what was run on that equipment and do an impact assessment. All the labs are clean along with the equipment. If you only knew the process they have to go thru with the fda to release a drug... You would be amazed. A majority... Actually pretty much everything gets knocked down and is not released. Some of the scientist in these labs are the most intelligent people you'll ever meet. I regularly spend time at all the big name pharma in NJ

NOW on the other hand - all you green /natural type of people- you know those green /natural vitamins and supplements you love??? Yea... I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole after being in some of those labs. So dirty. Like dirty like I'm going to wear nitrile gloves all day cause I don't know what chemical was just spilled on the counter and computer key board- but never cleaned up. And - did I mention they are not regulated? That means a lot of thier equipment is not to spec- not giving correct numbers- and from the 80's. Seriously. And oh yea- and thier scientist? Many of them had received degrees when schooling over seas... So I'm not sure what they taught there...

Anyways... That's all I got to add...

 

What's this have to do with surfing anyways??

 

Yep, words of wisdom^^^

Vaccines are like pretty much any other drug...they work, but there are most likely some adverse side effects. Hopefully, the FDA and the drug manufacturer aren't willfully hiding any *serious* side effects.

What would you rather have, Polio or Autism?

On another note, the U.S. Military forces our soldiers to "vaccinate" with unproven and dangerous drugs during specific threats, i.e., Iraqi "nerve agents". Many soldiers told me they had no choice and many of them became violently ill after having been forced to take them. Obviously just temporary effects, but the public doesn't know if there are long-term associated effects with the force-fed drug regimen.

You wanna talk about giving up all your rights? Become a soldier.

 

or a wildland firefighter! feds only take your soul for six months tho instead of the minimum 3-5 years, and all my vaccinations were optional which i declined.

 

its a unfortunate part of the job you do sign your life on the bottom line.

 

i play to but my ex smashed it so the back it stuck together with duck tape, the sound is amazing,,, lol