hairline/stress lines in glass

Stress cracks in the hotcoat from the board flexing. The glasser probably catalyzed the resin too quick which makes it brittle and crack easily. Channel Islands sends there factory 2nds over here to the East Coast for you to pay big bucks on crappy boards.
No need to fix the cracks, keep an eye on those dings, they'll start to delaminate over time.
~Brian
www.greenlightsurfsupply.com
Shape Your Surfing Experience

 

from my knowledge ( I do not own a CI board but friends I know do) Channel Island boards are pretty frail and ding easily. My friend had a pod and got hairlines after riding it a few times as well. but, who knows. any new board i get is gonna be hand shaped and local

 

proof?

i've had a couple CI's over the years (& currently) & never had this issue.

 

fix the dings, if you can't feel the cracks you should be okay.
its just the way CI's are glassed, doesn't mean its a crappy board. they use very little glass in order to maintain a light weight, performance board that flexes well. just be careful with it, other than that its probably great in the water

 

He has no proof...i'm guessing...since he usually posts just about every time CI comes up about how expensive and crappy they are. My guess is that if he had proof that CI is dumping "factory seconds" to the east coast he would have posted that by now, since that woud be useful information, as opposed to just bashing a successful brand.

 

i had a lot of ci's before they became burton/anacapa/china and the glass was great,from 1979 moonlight to 1999 where the glassing had a decal,and the glassing was most always really good.however,it's always since at least the 70's been considered that cal and hawaii say,'crappy board,send it to jersey,they won't know the difference.'makes sense,we've always been considered the weak sister,so why would cal or hawaii care about us?and someone i know who would know says some al merricks are now from china,too.makes sense,why wouldn't they be?put anacapa and al merricks side by side.put an al merrick decal instead of anacapa and it rides better and costs more.
too bad merricks were the best for years,and if you order custom you probably still get it shaped by someone decent in cal,and al merrick probably still shapes select boards for tom curren and friends,but here is the reason to find a local shaper.cracks can happen more clearly/visible in a skinny fish because it's not a clear sanded finish board,too.

 

wrong-skinny fish is heavy glass retro model.and wrong-greenlight just knows overpriced crap when he sees it.

 

Says right on the CI website that the Skinny Fish has the ultralight glass job like most other CI models. To the OP - you'll know for sure if your board has the "UL" stamp on the bottom usually back near the tail somewhere. I agree with others though, CI has some good designs but the light glassing makes them much less durable. They are definitely not worth their retail price...

 

guess they changed it since i lost interest after they were bought by a snowboard company.sorry

 

Kicking a hotcoat too fast WILL make PE resin brittle, and WILL reveal itself as what I refer to as "flex cracks." While overflexing will cause stress cracks across the stringer, from rail to rail, on just about any standard construction board, "flex cracks" (not an industry terms, btw... just something I've seen before, and don't know what to call it) can be found running only from rail to stringer, and not across the stringer. The only explanation I can think of is a hotcoat with too much cat. Because foam flexes more than wood because of the relative strengths of the two materials, and the rail flexes less than flat foam inside the rail because of it's shape, the foam between the rail and the stringer flexes most, particularly under torsional load, like on a turn. Greenlight's a mechanical engineer, so maybe he can explain better...

Whether CI does or does not send factory seconds to the East Coast I don't know. But those in the industry know more than me about that sort of thing.

 

It's the glass job. I have a 5'8 POD with the UL glass, same results. My locally shaped has a better glass job and is flawless. Nothing you can do about it, just keep an eye on it. If you are into saving money, which it appears you are, find a local guy and bring the CI model you want him to replicate. Guaranteed you'll pay $300+ less, and you'll be able to enjoy the board a lot longer.

 

you're right...& they don't. it would be a horribly stupid business decision. the days of treating the east coast like a red-headed step-child are over. the west coasters may not respect us, but they sure as **** recognize us as a legitimate market. a company as large as CI can't afford to send inferior products to one of their major markets. CI also has one of the most strict quality control standards in the industry. they are not made in china (the anacapas were made in thailand, but that comany was shut down in 2007 or 2008), they are made in california.

i'll climb down from my CI defense now...

 

I\'ve had the same CI Black Beauty for at least 6 years and no issues besides the standard pressure dings. Of course for the first 4 1/2 it was just a seldom used step up & travel board but the last year year and a half it has been rode regularly in waves known for PU breaking boards. Then again I watched a friend\'s Merrick proton buckle on a two foot day. 3rd or 4th session on the board... just a few waves in... not getting too radical and waves not throwing that hard. Buckle. Weird. Nothing that day surf or surfing would suggest a buckled board.

 

yes they are. for many reasons. light performance boards are not meant to last but to be ridden and ridden hard.ride er til she dies.

 

There are several local shapers in Monmouth/Ocean County. If you like the feel of a lightweight, high performance board, try EPS/Epoxy... about as light, yet strong, as you can get with standard construction. Check out some of the shapes on the Greenlight website to get an idea of what's available in terms of materials and custom shapes. http://greenlightsurfsupply.com/greenlightsurfboards-2.aspx

 

Really appreciate and respect you LBC, but fixed your post and as well they can be found across the stringer as well. Usually I find them on lb's or on the last 6" of a shortboard after their ridden into the sand or pushed with a similar amount of force.