Hellery Vs Donald POLL

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Hellery or Donald

  1. Hellery

    30.3%
  2. Donald

    69.7%
  1. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    But that's my point dude. They are not all new. One case was settled. One has a hearing set for December (which in itself is kind of nuts. Imagine the president a a hearing for raping a 13 year old?)
     
  2. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    lol, but i dont buy the 'qualified' thing. what makes somebody qualified? Being in politics their whole life? I would argue tat is why we are in the mess.
     

  3. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    How about someone that has a 10 grade vocabulary or higher.... We can start there.

    Is being born rich the qualification? Paris Hilton then?
     
  4. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    I dont buy the dumb argument either. In Trumps cases, you dont get to that level by being stupid. Same deal with Bush Jr (who had a higher GPA than Gore btw). Thats just name calling. Both have intelligence. I would say (and history supports this) the best presidents have been those with some sort if executive experience in previous roles.
     
  5. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    It would be crazy for sure, but somehow I see this all going away, it doesn't add up.
     
  6. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I'm not saying he's dumb. I don't think he is... But he cannot speak. When he is asked a question on the spot he can not put a intelligent response together...

    He makes Bush Jr sound like JFK
     
  7. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Things do tend to go away when you have billions.
     
  8. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    HAHA Yes, yes they do. They also tend to go away when there's no real evidence or proof.
     
  9. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Dude. He settled. He paid... There's just more now
     
  10. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    so Trump pays people off (no assumption of guilt) and Hillary just has people killed (unless they are a victim of Bill's then she public humiliates them).
     
  11. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    There was a guy at my company who claimed he was discriminated on because of his age. I was very close to the situation and knew that he had not been discriminated upon but rather than the company get drug into a lawsuit, they went ahead and paid him like $3,000 to settle. No wrong doing had been done, but he claimed it had, and got paid.

    Another lady who had been hired and was still fairly new felt that her hiring manager (my manager at the time) had been harassing her because of some emails she received from her demanding better performance than what she was giving. The emails were direct, but there was no "harassment". Guess what, they too paid her a sum of money to settle and avoid going to court.

    It's just easier and saves everybody a lot of time and effort.
     
  12. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Ok. So Bill pays and he's guilty. Trump pays and he's being set up. Got it
     
  13. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    both cases its hush money. Bill and Trump did pretty much the same thing. My issue is what Hillary did about it being the champion of women's rights....
     
  14. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    100% with you
     
  15. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Agreed.
    One thing we all agree on is Hilary does not deserve to be El Jefe
     
  16. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Dude, don't put words in my mouf ok? I said it's entirely plausible, to the suggestion by DPSUP, that women have been paid off to cry foul. I didn't say NINE (9). You said NINE (9).

    I also stated that Trump likely did grab ass in his time. You seem to have edited that out.

    See the way that ties together in my post...? Again.....I said that it's entirely plausible that women were paid off to hit up the claims department; and I also said it's likely that Trump grabbed ass; also stated that there are no absolutes.

    Mixed bag.

    You go all absolutist. Like a poorly-fitting shoe or something.
     
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2016
  17. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Not necessarily. I'm not saying that. I'm just giving you examples of what settlements can look like. The ones in my company didn't deserve a dime but they got it. I could name a few others but they are similar to the ones I already listed.

    I'm not saying Trump is an angel. He's probably been very forward with women before. Most men, especially those who get lots of play, have at one time or another made a move or made sexual advancements with a woman, sometimes maybe being too forward, but not assault.

    You don't get laid by waiting for everybody to make the first move. Sometimes you gotta break the ice when there is sexual tension. Sometimes signals are misread and you think someone is into you and then you find out they aren't or maybe they are but they are playing games with you, or perhaps they are setting you up for a sexual assault case. It happens.

    My argument hasn't been about Bill, you keep bringing him up. I don't claim to be an expert on his sex life, but I thought it was pretty much universally accepted that he has in fact assaulted women before, like factual evidence, not just a settlement. I may be wrong, like I said I don't claim to know everything, just going on memory.
     
  18. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    Haha.. I'm with you dawg. My bad
     
  19. nynj

    nynj Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2012
    I get it. I know people can be falsely accused. But Donald has held up plenty of cases in court for years without settling. You think an egomaniac is going to let some chick falsely accuse him and settle right away? Come one.

    And I only keep bringing up Bill because you said

    "Another thing is that Clinton's victims are exactly that, victims, meaning it's been proven. Trumps are just allegations, with zero proof other than he said she said, at least that I've seen anyway. "
     
  20. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    What gets me is the so many liberal abhor the Wall Street connection in politics but yet rabidly support a candidate that is blatantly supported by wall street over somebody who isn't.....