Higher performance board.

Discussion in 'Mid Atlantic' started by WopWop77, Oct 3, 2013.

  1. WopWop77

    WopWop77 Active Member

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    Jan 8, 2012
    After 5 years I am finally outgrowing my 7\"4\" ricky carroll funshaped board. I am looking for a board that I can ride in larger surf. 4+ and up this fall/winter.<br /><br />I am 5\"10\" 200lbs. <br /><br />Any suggestions on a new board would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. rvb

    rvb Well-Known Member

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    Mar 2, 2011
    i 100% suggest talking to a reputable local shaper
     

  3. EmassSpicoli

    EmassSpicoli Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    Erock and a few others (DP et al) can tell you lots about the magic of Coil boards by Mike Daniel.
     
  4. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    HAHA This is true, but nobody wants to hear that again. People get all bent when we try to inform others of the magic of Coil. If WopWop wants to know about them though, i'm willing to share.
     
  5. KillaKiel

    KillaKiel Well-Known Member

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    Feb 21, 2012
    A fish was my next step after I first started. The only issue is when it gets real nice and you (might) fry out. If on the east coast, that's what I would do or buy a Roy Stuart
     
  6. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    I heard good things about Coil and HyptoCrypto, but your local shaper is the way to go
    where are you in jerz?
    there is a CNC machine in P-ville, Atlantic county, 357 shapes, really good guy
    http://www.357surfboards.com/
     
  7. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    Where do you live?
     
  8. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    with name of Wop Wop and from NJ, I am guessing Bergen county? Mercer County?
     
  9. bubs

    bubs Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Get a fish, and not a retro twin keeled fish.
     
  10. WopWop77

    WopWop77 Active Member

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    Jan 8, 2012
    Close but no cigar. Montclair.
     
  11. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    There are some basic elements to "higher performance":

    -Rail foil, generally speaking (and we're talking really generally here, but since you are trying to get more performance than a funshape this should hold pretty true) the more "foil" the rail has the more HP it is. More foil = less volume = cutting into the wave more and better planing once you get up to speed. I bet your current board has really boxy rails, find something less boxy... sharper parabola for lack of a better description off the top of my head.

    -Bottom contours make a huge difference in responsiveness and speed, but they are less forgiving the more aggressive you make them. Chances are your current board has a pretty flat bottom maybe with some vee here and there and some slight concave. Concave is a discussion in and of itself and someone else can pick up that ball and run with it if they want. The short story is that concave can increase performance, so try to find something with more concave than what you have.... just don't go crazy with it.

    -Rocker: Again a whole discussion by itself, but suffice to say if you get something with a more HP rocker profile it means the rocker is tuned for high performance maneuvers and not paddleability or ease of catching a wave... preference can vary widely depending on your taste. If you're looking for tighter turns and making more critical sections, look for something that has a little more rocker on both ends or maybe continuous rocker, or maybe more flip at the nose and tail but flatter through the middle, or maybe......

    -Length.... Being able to surf "high performance" requires (let me remind everyone we're speaking in extremely general terms here) a board that fits into the pocket, can match the curvature and essentially dominate the waves on which you intend to shred the gnar. Don't get all crazy with riding what Kelly rides, just think about going shorter..... and I'm talking bigger than 5'2".... Probably something low to mid 6's in your case.

    -Fins..... do we really need to get into this right now? I'm hungry, dinner's almost ready and I have a hot date with some power tools and black walnut at 8.

    HTH!
     
  12. WopWop77

    WopWop77 Active Member

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    Jan 8, 2012
    Can anyone recommend any local shapers in Jersey?
     
  13. Mattyb

    Mattyb Well-Known Member

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    Apr 2, 2013
    If your from NJ contact essence surf and consider making a 5-10 copy of the Hayden shapes hypto krypto. The dimensions are really fun and could really help you progress from fun shape to shortboard. Good luck
     
  14. Mattyb

    Mattyb Well-Known Member

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    Apr 2, 2013
    Dude Essence Surf is right around your area. Ask for Gene. They make beautiful boards with tight lines. Check them out
     
  15. LBCrew

    LBCrew Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    If you don't get in the water frequently... and by that I mean surfing even on those marginal days... don't go too far with a performance board. I think you're right by saying, "higher" performance. That said, I'd go with something more like a shortboard in design, but still carrying some foam.. a "big guy" shortboard, some would call it. I've always told people in your situation to look into a hybrid shape, which is an oversized performance shortboard... a funshape with a more performance oriented outline, foil, bottom, rails, etc.... but shorter and narrower, with only slightly less volume. A step up in performance, but not such a big step that you'll struggle for 6 months before you start to get the thing wired. Something you'll be able to jump right into, feel a noticeable difference, but not waste a dozen swells trying to figure it out.
     
  16. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    How much do you weigh wopwop? a 5'10 HC might be too big. I weight 175 and a 5'8 is just fine
     
  17. Sandblasters

    Sandblasters Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2013
    you allways have to buy a roy i mean where would we be with out him..
     
  18. santiago58

    santiago58 Well-Known Member

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    Feb 5, 2011
    lb crew had some good advice, I would go in that direction if I was you.
     
  19. brewengineer

    brewengineer Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2011
    This is good advice. Going from a fun shape to a fish or performance egg is a good transition. You want enough volume to give you some boyancy, but not so much that you struggle to make turns.