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Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by TheWocal, Jul 14, 2013.
Zeke Lau Volcom's Strange Brains to Aesop Rock is good I think. Just fits.
because they are like $33 each for a surf DVD. While rap music promotes the frivolous hemorrhaging of cash, most rap music listeners have little to no disposable income. Also, this demographic lends it self to piracy much more than, say, the middle class, weekend warrior, working man surfer. If you were trying to sell a $33, 40 minute long DVD, what music would you choose?
Welcome to The Machine - Pink Floyd
"Wipeout" , the Jaws theme song and some Beach Boys should be featured in every surf video.
There are a lot of skiing movies out there that use a bit of hip-hop here and there. I'm not a hip-hop fan at all, but used in the right place it really works well. Depends on the song...saying hip-hop is a huge generalization. It's sort of like saying "rock n roll" to refer to one style of music.
I think a big part of it is that there just isn't a big population of Black Americans that surf or are involved in surf culture. The classical image of a surfer in American media has always been the blond haired California boy even though this isn't an accurate image in the global context. By no means did Europeans consider Polynesians to be White. The English didn't even consider the Irish, Germans, and Italians to be White until well into the 1900s. Keep in mind that when Americans began moving towards the beaches and swimming culture began to grow in the 1920s Black Americans were being harassed and chased off most beaches. There is a pretty interesting documentary on netflix called Whitewash that raises some good dialogue on the subject.
People Under the Stairs is one of my choice artists for the drive to the beach! It's mellow and rhythmic...really puts me in the right frame of mind for surfing.
I think some El Ten Eleven would set the mood for a decent longboarding flick.
Folks, please stop getting "Hip-Hop" and "Rap" confused. Rap sucks. Hip-Hop has been and forever will be an underground movement and the gap between it and Rap has grown considerably over time Sure, some artists make it big and popular in the mainstream (Roots, OutKast, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Gangstar to name a few), but that's not what it's all about, nor is it the goal--and it most definitely is not about blinging out wit da hoes and gettin all thug-like, yolo.
Hip-Hop is by-and-large highly intelligent and socially conscious--often pigeonholed and mischaracterized as "Conscious Rap." I agree that "Rap" has no part in surfing... I don't think Rap should have any part in anything whatsoever. I would love to hear more Hip-Hop in surf vids, but that's because I love Hip-Hop... to its their own, you know?
I don't have time to really get into it all in one post, but I do take extreme exception with the claim that electronic music doesn't require skill or music knowledge and is merely someone "pressing buttons on a computer." Sure, there are some production programs that make it almost that easy to create loops, but they're like the difference between a Fisher Price My First Guitar and a Rickenbacker 360 when compared to professional electronic music production programs--highly limited and sound like crap. Producing electronic music can be extremely complicated and requires a fairly thorough knowledge of music theory. How do I know? I used to produce some Hip-Hop, some Big Beat and tons upon tons of Drum and Bass. I started in music at a very early age with Clarinet, Oboe, Sax, and Bassoon. Then I learned guitar and bass... I love playing bass--been doing it for over 20 years now... although I don't pick it up very often these days.
Some Hip Hop Artists/Groups I consider to be awesome:
Definitive Jux Label: El-P, Rob Sonic, Mr. Lif, Aesop Rock, RJD2 et. al... groups like Company Flow and Cannibal Ox
Blackstar: Mos Def, Talib Kweli, DJ Hi-Tech
Dialated Peoples: Rakaa Iriscience, Evidence, Babu
Kool Keith/Dr. Octagon
Del tha Funky Homosapien
Hell, I went through all that and I could have just let Aesop Rock 'splain it to y'all (turn it up!):
Mr. Dobaleena Mister Bob Dobaleena.
Interior crocodile alligator. I drive a Chevrolet movie theater! Silly wabbit, rap is for rapsters! Crank up the **** Dale or Pennywise or the Blue Hawaiins on a surf video. IMO. But I can hang with old school Snoop! I say bow you say wow. Nice flashback Mr. Dobeleena! LMAO
^^^^^^^Love me some Pennywise, esp the first two albums.
Macaroni time is getting a Grammy fo sho, don't believe me jus watch!
Okay man, I get that. I'm 20. I've been playing music since I was 10, and it's probably the one thing I know best along with surfing. I've studied jazz and music theory pretty extensively. I'm also pretty into poetry (probably why I like rap, huh?). Kanye was definitely a musician and a poet. He amazingly clever and imaginative things with words (maybe he doesn't use your vernacular, but neither does Shakespeare). College Dropout and Late Registration were dope. Listen to Acid Rap by Chance the Rapper. Its on his website for free.
Also there are plenty of good movies, you just have to do a little sifting to find them. I can recommend you some. I'm stoned and stuck in class. It's history of the 60s. We just watch movies. Perfect summer class, right?
Plus, all you people are just falling into the same trap every generation falls into: phobia of cultural change/youth culture. Remember when kids started listening to jazz and their parents thought it was the devil's music? Then they died and everyone realized what an incredible form of art it was. The same thing happened with Rock and Roll. Why don't you realize that just because you didn't grow up with it doesn't mean it can't be art.
rap/ hip hop is a dying/dead art form. I love all music for the most part, rap probably is my favorite but there is rarely any new artists worth listening too. Just got back from Phish in Merriweather yesterday, went to a country festival 3 weeks ago, went to reggae night at my local bar, music is all opinion. you like the sound or you don't. . . . .i hate when people argue about it. There is no right or wrong. take some L and expand your mind. OR JUST LISTEN TO SOME CREED.
THATS ME AND IS SURF....THATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIP HOP AND RAP....LOVE....WHAT UP
JUST LIKE SURFING.....AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW NOW YOU KNOW______________
Correction...that is me and i surf...lol