Hypto Krypto

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Haha dude if you like it, pick one up. Who cares what anyone else thinks. I just had to share that, too funny. All my current boards are locally shaped but I would still pick up something like that if I had already ridden it and knew it was something I liked. I've only ever heard nothing but good things about that board. Let's see what some other SI'rs have to say.

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That's a board you must size right and not overvolume or get extra safety volume. Otherwise, it's a dog.

 

Hypto Krapto.
Buy today, sell tomorrow.
At a loss....

 

I didn't see you as a Hayden Shapes man, B. Did you purchase one/ride one & it was no bueno?

Full disclosure: considering having custom HK done up as a travel board for varying conditions.

 

I have a vision that's similar to the hypto. Wasn't done on purpose. But while talking numbers and design my shaper even said "this reminds me of a hypto krypto". It's a really fun board. I like it. I feel it is a really good blend of performance and comfort ya know. I can boogey on it and push my surfing but at the same time it is a board I can take out when waves are weaker still get into them. I'm a fan of that style of board.

 

One of my friends has one, and he insisted I try it; so I did. Really not impressed--reminds me of an oversized foam top boogie board. I do try them, yankee; I am NOT stuck in the past relevant to technology, etc....but I am critical of "new" things that are....not so "new".
For travel?? May be a good idea; I would prefer a Coil, simply based on SHAPE. I have not yet ridden a Coil. I have seen a couple up here, look them over, and saw a nice board. But for travel, I prefer a gunnier board.
For everyday use? I will stick with PU boards until something real good comes along, or die first. At my age either could get here first....

 

Barry, serious question. How old are you? I agree about sticking with PU boards. I do like the hypto shape. some other big name brands shapes. But feel getting a local guy to shape something similar in PU is the way to go. At least for me

 

I am 65. And I have been surfing since 1961, when I was 10. I am not a "long boarder"...I have boards of all sizes over the years, always having between 10-12 boards at a time; I am presently down to eight. If I buy a new board, I sell one.
I also raced sailboats for 15 years, up until 2005, but I am done with that--too much work maintaining a boat and sails.
Most of my boards are custom made for me, but, by Californians - G&S shapers (2 in particular), Tim Bessel, Mike Baron (Byrne), etc. Because of my early surfing experience on reef breaks (PR), I prefer gunny shapes. Coil has one pictured on their site in new boards upcoming, that I may ask them to make for me as a travel board, but I need to know more about them first. When I enter a surf shop nowadays, I am surprised at the crap they are selling on the racks--real shiit. For them it is about money, and money only. The newer surfing kids think that is all that is available; shops are being of dis-service to the younger set, and for money only. They have sold out. All of them--no exception. In the long run, it will hurt their business. I therefore will avoid shop boards--go directly to shapers--I go to California simply because EVERY board I have ever custom ordered comes to me EXACTLY as I ordered it, except one from Channel--I had the shop returned it, as they tried to insist I buy it even though the board had major defects in it (Channel admitted to me via email later, the board should never have been sent out--it was a reject.).
Right now I am happy with my quiver. I would however, like to add ONE with the new technology, but I am usually dis-satisfied with East coast shaping talent. Coil is East coast, therefore, I need to see more of their boards, and I will sooner or later....
Have a good day, Bass, and thanks for asking for input. I usually keep it to myself.

 

I have had 2 hyptos...both 5'6" one a GSI another a US custom--I use it as my low board or when I want to just ride something different.. The only issue I had with the GSI/Thailand board was the fact that the foam seemed of a lesser density than the custom. Otherwise super clean board and IMHO incredibly versatile shape. I've ridden the hypto in From knee high to overhead surf and it flat out works--soft waves to bowly barrels. Most will complain about the low nose rocker tail too pulled in etc...but like most boards you just need to get used to it. It's not a daily driver for me but a very fun versatile board. Whenever someone is on the fence about getting one I alway encourage them to do so....it's a great little board.

 

There's a few models that are similar to the HK, methinks. The Lazyboy from ...Lost, the Rusty Dwart & so on.

Didn't infer that you were stuck in the past, Barry, just asking.

For me, being the completely wrong size for surfing (6'2, 205), I need the volume up under my wheel house, my engine, my power: chest & shoulders. That's where most of my weight is due to my height, and that's where my weight is 'cause as we all know muscle is heavy & doesn't float.

I've been on many a longboart that is just a bogging nightmare to paddle because the shaper centered the volume, put it under my hips. People think all longboarts are the same in terms of paddle speed. No.

Doesn't matter how long it is, what the rocker is, the rails, the tail.....it's all about where the float is in any boart, IMHO. This is hard for a lot of people to grasp, eh, because the majority of surfers are pretty far under 200 lbs. Put a smaller, lighter person on there & zoom-zoom. And so, people get confused because it's an illusion.
So, you witness many smaller guys & gals on boarts that are huge; the equivalent of me being on a 12' gnome plank.



We all know that the width at the front is critical for catching waves. The farther that I can push up front whilst paddling for a wave, the better shot I have at it.

That's why I really enjoy my 6'6 Lazyboy (49 litres). Fast paddler (Biolos got the volume position correct) & I can be way up front on it without ever pearling it. It has enough rocker that I don't bury it on steep & deep.
For me, it turns just fine. I'm not on the level of some of youse guys with the airs & shred sleds, props to y'all, so this Lazyboy is fine by me.

Anyways, just randoming.

Mitchell could weigh in at this point - - he shreds & he shapes & he can talk about boarts in a sensible, experienced way.

'Eddie would go,
Mitchell will know.'

 

Yankee, as for the float portion being under chest and shoulders, I ask that be included in my boards as well. Years ago Mike Baron of Byrne made me a gunny big guy tri placing the float perfectly where I requested. I use it as my PR board, or, on trips surfing over reefs. Easy to paddle, easy to catch waves, and fast as hell down the line in hollow waves. I did NOT take it with me to CR. Wrong board for Tamarindo waves, really.
Works for me.

 

Thanks B. Good intel in my continuing quest.

 

Yank and Barry understand... The factors contributing to the "volume" of a board (a generic term with little meaning that big name board builders use to make consumers think they know more than they do aboot what they're riding) are both width and thickness...and of course, length. So template, along with foil (how the thickness of the board flows from nose to tail, AND rail to rail) determine the balance of volume. And that BALANCE is what matters most, not the overall volume in Liters. Knowing the overall volume is only a start... but I guess it's better than knowing nothing at all.

 

BTW... 'ing has a decent issue this month. A few of the articles reminded me of recent SI discussions... with (surprisingly) some shape talk. Not detailed stuff... but interesting.

 

This is a point worth stating explicitly, and it's good that you did lbcrew. Both B and I are on the same page as you, which is why we are focusing on location, location, location (so to speak). I mentioned how boggy a longboard can be due to poor location (IMHO) of density of volume, whereas many people are under the false impression that any longboard will paddle well & catch plenty of waves.

Years ago I had a 7S with that stepdeck thing or whatever it was. Thing was easily 3" thickness. But, a terrible boart. Excommunicated from the quiver.