How could the most violent and wasteful entity in the history of humanity be any good at managing our health? do you think? or just make statements based on emotions?
I'm totally pro military I'd invest in that -not to be confused with what many of you refer to as invading or other cliche headlin- over the bs social waste. Give more to veterans. Its waste because a lot of social spending is statistically useless. Better kept in hands of those who earn the money and contribute it socially on their own terms. There are certainly people who need help...I'm not a harsh person...just needs to be better regimented. Conservatives are proportionally way more charitable than libs and if you don't believe it google it.
Well played hanna, however, I can objectively verify the magnitude of the waste and murder, would you like links? II 128,168,000 VICTIMS: THE DEKA-MEGAMURDERERS 4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State 5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill 6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State 7. 10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime III 19,178,000 VICTIMS: THE LESSER MEGA-MURDERERS 8. 5,964,000 Murdered: Japan's Savage Military 9. 2,035,000 Murdered: The Khmer Rouge Hell State 10. 1,883,000 Murdered: Turkey's Genocidal Purges 11. 1,670,000 Murdered: The Vietnamese War State 12. 1,585,000 Murdered: Poland's Ethnic Cleansing 13. 1,503,000 Murdered: The Pakistani Cutthroat State 14. 1,072,000 Murdered: Tito's Slaughterhouse IV 4,145,000 VICTIMS: SUSPECTED MEGAMURDERERS 15. 1,663,000 Murdered? Orwellian North Korea 16. 1,417,000 Murdered? Barbarous Mexico 17. 1,066,000 Murdered? Feudal Russia http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM
any and all gvts, they all inevitably turn into monsters. ask the children in the middle east how they view the USA gvt, as saviors, or murderous monsters....all chickens come home to roost
I think the ability is lacking on other grounds (namely nothing is run well by gvt and it is all subject to corruption, whoever said post office was run well didnt include the fact that it is insolvent), in my post I am making comparisons to the 'morality' of said institutions and how trusting them to administer our healthcare needs is folly at best and more leaning towards suicidal. GVT sponsored violence is the leading cause of death in the last 100 years....why would you trust your healthcare to a gvt?
I disagree, I think care would become a limited resource due to fraud and waste and a grim triage (worse than we have now) would ignore (or worse) those that didn't 'make the cut' as 'viable' to treat. >>>> gvt sponsored healthcare not being able to service a population, >>>>> resulting in more deaths OR GVT sponsored healthcare poorly servicing population>>>>>>more deaths
do you think it's ok that the insurance cos can keep you from getting coverage because of pre existing conditions? or if you've been paying, in my case 1600 bucks, every month and you get extremely ill, and you're cut off because you've reached your life time limit. Now, my question to you is, do you personally know anyone who has had the problems with ACA. I don't. I've gotten an official quote of 495 a month which will start Jan 1st. Believe the hype or me. I have no reason to lie. If the right had run a reasonable human,like Huntsman, in the last election, I'da voted against Obush as well as a majority of dem s
“If you like not having a doctor, you get to keep not having a doctor – period.” http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-november-5-2013/affordable-horror-story
chich you keep thinking this entity will turn out to be a skittle sh!tting unicorn when its really just a dead donkey in the road, keep hoping though, maybe there is a Santa Claus.....
You're telling me that a 1000 bucks saving for the same product is a bad thing? you must be a 1%. But,I keep thinking that I may still get fugged, but they'll use lube, as opposed to now, where they use glass covered condoms. It'll be better, but not like a single payer or public option plan.
1K is a lot (is that per year or per month) thats a great chunk of change. your optimism and hope in change are cute, like a child's, I truly hope it works out for you.
what kind of personal experience have you had? or are you just repeating party rhetoric? I haven't heard you say, "this train wreck which is Obamacare" so you must be out of the loop.
I am not partisan, I think both red and blue are BS, I think I have mentioned this ad nauseum, but you keep trying to fit me into a preconceived notion of what your limited experience believes I should be and I have used the word trainwreck, sorry you missed it my experience is this: I have read about some aspects of the program and tried to access the website (the HI exchange is poo) Do you know the term 'rationing of care' a grim triage due to care shortages will make this country worse off, but dont take my word for it, just wait 10 years to see it yourself serfs up!
yeah I've heard of rationing care. It's called life time limit and preexisting conditions now. my neighbor, who worked 2 jobs, died in her front yard because of it. had diabetes, got kicked off the rolls. by the time she got social service help, it was too late. She couldn't afford her prescriptions any way. I'm 58 years old and paid for coverage for 40. went from 36 bucks a month to 1650. I got on the site the Sunday before and got a quote for the platinum for 580. My insurance broker called and said, starting 1 1 14, 490s. the government is more fugged up now than ever, and is beyond repair. As much money as the average guy pays in taxes, getting affordable health care is the very least our rich representatives can do for us. Theirs is free, along with the 175,000 a year salary. I missed your usage train wreck because it drops my iq every time I read it. It's either read you fox news like rants or quit smoking mota. guess which one won.
lol faux news like rants, eh... You are so brainwashed and stuck on the idea of paying taxes you dont recognize the inherent immorality of the theft and here is your problem gringo: " very least our rich representatives can do for us." they dont owe you anything, no one owes you anything save for this: 'to leave you the f@ck alone' an entitlement attitude is the start of your problems and it seems like a long list ta boot what happens when they say you can only be covered if you piss clean...good luck amigo Im not saying the current system is good, it is really basically criminally negligent, however, it could be worse as you will see
The burden of proof for why freedom is better than state control and monopoly does not and cannot lie with those who advocate for freedom. BC If you've studied anthropology and history The State (governments) has/had existed for eons before the ideas of the free market and Capitalism (ideas that were in direct opposition to The State) were advocated.... as a percentage of human evolutionary time, freedom's never been tried and history shows that States no matter how well they propagandize themselves, always fail and always try to take their citizens down with them. get ready..theres an outside set coming.