I'm getting me some Obamacare

Discussion in 'Non Surf Related' started by chicharronne, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. hinmo24t

    hinmo24t Well-Known Member

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    Jan 16, 2012
    Massachusetts had 92% insured prior to romneycare. The state was in a financial condition to enact healthcare for the remaining 8%. Just because it was right for mass doesnt mean the entire country should do it.
     

  2. babybabygrand

    babybabygrand Well-Known Member

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    Nov 1, 2012

    Seems votes are getting easier to buy everyday eh?
     
  3. babybabygrand

    babybabygrand Well-Known Member

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    Nov 1, 2012
    yup the euphemism that will soon replace "between a rock and a hard place" will be "between Jail and the Hospital!" oy vey!
     
  4. shark-hunter

    shark-hunter Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2012
    Obama-care is fantastic just as social security and medicare are. Repub's want to get rid of that too. Vouchers for social security. lmao. Good luck with that.
     
  5. oipaul

    oipaul Well-Known Member

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    May 23, 2006
    more unfunded liabilities. SS to the tune of 16 Trillion. Trillion with a T. And this is who you want handling your healthcare? Like you say, "good luck with that".
     
  6. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    I'd rather my tax dollars go to helping the lazy azzes in the yoo ess than to be spent killing brown people where ever we find them.
     
  7. Scobeyville

    Scobeyville Well-Known Member

    May 11, 2009
    The USPS is not a "government program". It's a private entity.
     
  8. hinmo24t

    hinmo24t Well-Known Member

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    Jan 16, 2012
    Yeah. Shark hunter how do you think I feel I'm watching a chunk of my pay go into those funds and unless those programs are reformed like the ryan plan ill never see a dime of it when I retire in 30 years. It was mismanaged and unsustainable unless they slap on more taxes...which def will to try stretching that out; and all in a grim forecasted economy for the middle class.
     
  9. HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI

    HARDCORESHARTHUFFER-RI Well-Known Member

    Sep 17, 2013
    chicarrone, yes, Id rather help people than kill people too! Glad to know we have that in common.

    there are problems with all the systems (municipal, state, federal pensions, social security). They are partially funded, this by definition makes them ponzi schemes which are criminal. But its ok cause gvt is doing it? superconfused how anyone can think this is ok
     
  10. chicharronne

    chicharronne Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    true dat Mr. Stop. When the gov bails out flimflam men, that purposely defraud millions of people, using the victims tax dollars pay them. Then blame the people scammed. It was their fault that they listen to someone they trusted to give them sound financial advice, when that someone knew they were dispersing a creamy behemoth from their cavernous bowels. that's called capitalism. ewe essay ewe essay!
     
  11. billabongmoney

    billabongmoney Well-Known Member

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    Sep 23, 2008
    Hey Guy, so you know the USPS is created as a government agency under Title 39, Section 101.1 of the United States Code which states, in part:

    (a) The United States Postal Service shall be operated as a basic and fundamental service provided to the people by the Government of the United States, authorized by the Constitution, created by Act of Congress, and supported by the people. The Postal Service shall have as its basic function the obligation to provide postal services to bind the Nation together through the personal, educational, literary, and business correspondence of the people. It shall provide prompt, reliable, and efficient services to patrons in all areas and shall render postal services to all communities. The costs of establishing and maintaining the Postal Service shall not be apportioned to impair the overall value of such service to the people.
     
  12. rodndtube

    rodndtube Well-Known Member

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    May 21, 2006
    I am def against malpractice. Those bum docs should just have their licenses revoked.
     
  13. rodndtube

    rodndtube Well-Known Member

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    May 21, 2006
    Is denying people health care insurance due to preexisting conditions "rationing?" Is canceling a policy after a sickness "rationing?" Is having a low life time limit "rationing?"
     
  14. rodndtube

    rodndtube Well-Known Member

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    May 21, 2006
    Amen.

    My friends from Australia and Sweden don't understand what all this excitement about ACA.
     
  15. rodndtube

    rodndtube Well-Known Member

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    May 21, 2006
    Do you have employer provided health insurance?
     
  16. rodndtube

    rodndtube Well-Known Member

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    May 21, 2006
    This really shouldn't be a govt vs free enterprise debate. All retirement programs should be funded and vested. Plenty of private sector pensions have been spent by the company or dissolved via "bankruptcy" proceedings and mergers.
     
  17. rodndtube

    rodndtube Well-Known Member

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    May 21, 2006
    And the retort shall be, "That is unconstitutional!!!"
     
  18. natkitchen

    natkitchen Well-Known Member

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    Mar 29, 2011
    Social security was funded pretty well until they started taking the money out. Now its easy to call it a ponzi scheme because if you make it go away you are not held responsible for spending the money. This was done by both sides.
     
  19. aka pumpmaster

    aka pumpmaster Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2008
    the vast majority of people support a safety net. People have issue when the safety net is used as a primary source of income by those who find it eaiser to collect the money than use it to better their lives. Same thing with govt in general. most understand the need for govt but the problem is the insane amount of waste: http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-11-318SP