last thing, i'll agree it's pathetic to gripe over 2 foot slop, but it's twice as bad to be the loser paddle-battling and snaking the weekend warriors for the same slop. thing is, these problems don't happen near as often when the surf gets head high.
I wasnt talking about rockaway, I was talking about what I currently had understood long beach to be like. Everyone I've spoken to who surfs out says they need more beaches. I couldnt care less. I rarely have issues were I surf.